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- From: rsrodger@wam.umd.edu (Yamanari)
- Subject: Re: Living in a State of Siege
- Message-ID: <1993Jan3.145648.2545@wam.umd.edu>
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- References: <7.27632@wam.umd.edu>> <1993Jan2.205430.10619@panix.com> <726043390@lear.cs.duke.edu>
- Date: Sun, 3 Jan 1993 14:56:48 GMT
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- In article <726043390@lear.cs.duke.edu> gazit@cs.duke.edu (Hillel) writes:
- >In article <1993Jan2.205430.10619@panix.com>
- >gcf@panix.com (Gordon Fitch) writes:
- >>It's a different issue. Education and jobs involving
- >>mathematics are manifestly social constructions. Longevity
- >>isn't (unless we socially knock a lot of people off).
-
-
- We *do* socially knock people off. Men, mostly, with astounding
- regularity. Men aremuch more likely to thebe victims of a
- *fatal* assault. Men are much more likely to commit suicide.
-
- Also, car accidents. These drag the average down. The whole point
- is, if a man is careful, he will easily live as long as a woman. There
- is nothing inherent about men that says they'll die sooner.
-
- >Really?!
- >
- >Have you ever thought about the following possibilities:
- >
- >1) Men are under social pressure not to show any weakness, and
- > therefore they seek medical help much later; sometimes too late.
- >
- >2) Men are under more pressure to be successful in work; extra
- > pressure can kill men younger.
- >
- >3) Men are under pressure to take more risky works.
- >
- >4) Older women have more money than older men and therefore they
- > have access to better medical care.
- >
- >5) There is more public assistance to women than men, and therefore
- > poor women get better medical care.
-
- All 5 of which are very good points,but I'm sure he'll
- reply with a "#1 is themans problem," and try and defend
- #4 ("he should have saved") and #5 ("they deserve it").
-
-
- --
- Blaming "society" for your problems is like blaming clouds for rain.
- --- boycott == censorship == closed mindedness == cowardice ---
- "Psalms 23:1 The LORD is my shepherd; I shall not want."
- Shepherds are for sheep. ----- Pain teaches.
-