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From: [e-mail] (Rich Payne)
Subject: Re: Male Choice Revisited
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Date: Sun, 3 Jan 1993 02:48:15 GMT
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In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Michal Leah Peri) writes:
>[e-mail] (Eric Forbis ) writes:
>
>>In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Michal Leah Peri) writes:
>>>We were discussing father notification of a woman's pregnancy
>>>in order to allow him to claim the child should the woman choose
>>>to give that child up for adoption.  My position is that the
>>>birth of the child is already a matter of public record on
>>>which the father can easily follow up (eg, by writing to the
>>>county recorder).  Thus there is no need for legislation
>>>mandating "paternal notification".  Moreover, notification
>>>of the woman's pregnancy (as distinct from the *birth* of the
>>>child) is a violation of the woman's right to privacy.
>
>>highly mobile and people relocate frequently. Notifying a local government
>>where the father will likely never find the record is hardly making it
>>"public" in any meaningful sense-- but that's what you want, no?
>
>>Notification of pregnancy is not a violation of the mother's right to
>>privacy. Rights end where others begin; a pregnancy exists in part because
>>of the other, and when fatherhood is the issue, that "other" certainly has
>>the right to know.
>
>Would you be satisfied with paternal notification of the child's birth?
>I would have no problem with that with regards to privacy considerations,
>since the birth is already a matter of the public record.  (I have problems
>with requiring additional governmental paperwork, but that is not an
>direct inequity issue.)  However, requiring a woman to notify anyone of
>her pregnancy is a violation of her privacy.

If she wants 18 years of child support, then the father should be notified
of the pregnancy. Otherwise the man has no say. After birth, all she has to
do is to take hime to court, it is too late a joint decision.

The notion that the pregnancy is not the fathers business, but the child after
birth is is a bit odd. If she wants to raise the child herself, she need not
notify the father at all. If she wants child support, then the father has
a need and a right to know about the pregnancy. Unless, as you seem to feel,
it really does not matter what the father feels/wants/can afford, the women
has every right to make the decisions for him, after all, the idiot unzipped
his zipper.

>
>                                                --  Michal
>----------------------------------------------------------------------
>Of course there's no reason!


Rich

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