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- From: jenk@microsoft.com (Jen Kilmer)
- Subject: Re: Seperatists etc.
- Message-ID: <1992Dec24.032248.5827@microsoft.com>
- Date: 24 Dec 92 03:22:48 GMT
- Organization: Microsoft Corporation
- References: <lj6nmnINN8jo@exodus.Eng.Sun.COM> <MUFFY.92Dec19100433@remarque.berkeley.edu> <3182@devnull.mpd.tandem.com>
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- In article <3182@devnull.mpd.tandem.com> dwelch@mpd.tandem.com (Dan Welch) writes:
- >In article <MUFFY.92Dec19100433@remarque.berkeley.edu> muffy@remarque.berkeley.edu (Muffy Barkocy) writes:
- >>In article <lj6nmnINN8jo@exodus.Eng.Sun.COM> williamt@athena.Eng.Sun.COM (Dances with Drums) writes:
- >>>Face it, you put a bunch of computer
- >>>nerds in a room, and it will likely turn to tech talk. If women are
- >>>there, those same conversations often don't occur -- different topics
- >>>are discussed.
-
- Ummm...are you assumming that the set of "computer nerds" and the set
- of "women" will not intersect?
-
- Speaking as a woman who is a computer nerd (ie, part of the intersection :)
- I find tech talk very common in social situations (and get regularily
- chewed out by non-techies for it :).
-
- One of my "do I really want to date this guy" tests is, A) how does he
- handle me talking tech and B) do I want to put up with this reaction very
- much?
-
- >>Absolutely false, in my experience.
-
- Me too, Muffy, but then you're in the intersection with me!!
-
- >Absolutely *true*, though, in mine. In fact, I get pressure from women
-
- Techie women or non-techie women?
-
- >to *not* talk about technical stuff, even if I have an inclination to.
- >I have been subjected to any number of glares and impatient gestures when
- >co-workers and I discuss computers around non-computer-literate women;
- >no such thing happens around non-computer-literate men.
-
- You lucky stiff. That's where all the computer-tolerant non-computer-literate
- men are; Dan's got them hidden somewhere!!!! Where where where??? Share,
- please!!!
-
- >The most common
- >thing heard: "Oh, God, they're talking computers, again," accompanied by
- >a roll of the eyes.
-
- I get this from both genders. Gee, wonder why the number of non-techie
- friends (of both genders) I have is dwindling and dwindling...
-
- -jen
-
-