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- From: glhewitt@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (Gary Livingston Hewitt)
- Subject: Re: Cannibalism (was Re: Bronze in Native America)
- Message-ID: <1992Dec22.021502.17801@Princeton.EDU>
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- In article <1992Dec21.224312.8764@cbfsb.cb.att.com> kja@cbnewsf.cb.att.com (krista.j.anderson) writes:
- >I've read some modern histories that doubt that the cannibalism is
- >really true to the extent claimed. Informants may have lied to
- >make their enemies or themselves seem more fierce. But I have
- >friends who do believe the stories.... I'd at least like to
- >maintain that it's open to dispute.
-
- This presumes, of course, that the culture in question would value or
- identify cannibalism as something within the realm of possibility. The
- extent is difficult -- but it seems that the Aztecs, at least, did it.
- >
- >Plus, sometimes the word cannibalism is stretched a bit. For
- >example, one S. American tribe are called cannibals because they
- >partake of the burnt and ground bones of their revered departed
- >ones. I personally wouldn't really consider that cannibalism.
-
- I don't know that it matters. I'm less concerned with whether these
- people crossed or did not cross any lines, than with what they might
- have done. We put the burned ashes of our departed ones into jars and
- leave them in our houses. Others might find this disgusting.
- >
- >Another story I heard or read is that there was sometimes a ritual
- >bite taken out of an enemies heart, but that the bite was spat out.
- >To take a bite at all was apparently to prove one's self-discipline
- >in being able to do something so disgusting. Later the warrior
- >would brag that he ate the other man's heart.
-
- On the other hand, it appears that when an Aztec warrior brought home
- his captured foe, to be sacrificed, he was the only one *not* to partake
- of the delicacy -- some kind of "momento mori" thing, perhaps, but no
- one is really sure.
- >
- >I think some Native women also took a symbolic bite of the placenta
- >after giving birth. The umbilical cord, when it dropped off, was
- >kept by the child as being special. (But these things could be
- >unsubstantiated rumors, as I think I read them in _Hanta Yo_ which
- >is fiction, albeit well-researched.)
- >
- >The most personalized report of doing something to an enemy I've
- >read is in _Black Elk Speaks_. Black Elk was about 13 at the time
- >of the Battle of Little Big Horn (1876), too young to fight, but
- >old enough to be expected to scalp a dead 7th cavalryman. He
- >managed to complete his task, but not without throwing up a couple
- >of times.
-
- Sounds better than old "Last of the Mohicans," where scalping seems
- awfully easy and done wtih relish. I suppose that some had the stomach
- for it, more than others. Just like Jeffrey Dahmer seems to have had
- the stomach for it....
-
- Gary
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