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- From: kja@cbnewsf.cb.att.com (krista.j.anderson)
- Subject: Re: Cannibalism (was Re: Bronze in Native America)
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- Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 22:43:12 GMT
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- In article <1992Dec19.165138.853@Princeton.EDU>, glhewitt@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (Gary Livingston Hewitt) writes:
- > In article <1992Dec18.171411.1@cubldr.colorado.edu> parson_r@cubldr.colorado.edu (Robert Parson) writes:
- > > Incidentally if anyone here will be spending time in Denver during the next
- > > couple of months, be sure to catch this exhibit. It is based on recent
- > > excavations from the Templo Mayor in Mexico City, and will not travel - after
- > > February, the artifacts go back to Mexico. Yes, plenty of attention is given
- > > to the human sacrifices - there is a 1/10 scale model of the Temple which
- > > shows the blood stains where the bodies were rolled down the steps, as well
- > > as actual sacrificial knives, etc. - and to the rigid social stratification
- > > in the society, although there was no mention of cannibalism - is the latter
- > ^^^^^^^^^^^
- > > established fact, or conjecture? The organizer of the exhibit (and leader
- > > of the archeological digs) is Eduardo Matos Moctezuma, a descendant of
- > > the Emperor who met Cortes.
- >
- > That's established fact (or as much as a fact as historians get, I
- > guess). For a good English source, see Inga Clendinnen's big book on
- > the Aztecs. For that matter, it seems that many North American Indians
- > practiced cannibalism -- clearly the Algonkians, at least. Always in
- > the context of war, I would add.
-
- I've read some modern histories that doubt that the cannibalism is
- really true to the extent claimed. Informants may have lied to
- make their enemies or themselves seem more fierce. But I have
- friends who do believe the stories.... I'd at least like to
- maintain that it's open to dispute.
-
- Plus, sometimes the word cannibalism is stretched a bit. For
- example, one S. American tribe are called cannibals because they
- partake of the burnt and ground bones of their revered departed
- ones. I personally wouldn't really consider that cannibalism.
-
- Another story I heard or read is that there was sometimes a ritual
- bite taken out of an enemies heart, but that the bite was spat out.
- To take a bite at all was apparently to prove one's self-discipline
- in being able to do something so disgusting. Later the warrior
- would brag that he ate the other man's heart.
-
- I think some Native women also took a symbolic bite of the placenta
- after giving birth. The umbilical cord, when it dropped off, was
- kept by the child as being special. (But these things could be
- unsubstantiated rumors, as I think I read them in _Hanta Yo_ which
- is fiction, albeit well-researched.)
-
- The most personalized report of doing something to an enemy I've
- read is in _Black Elk Speaks_. Black Elk was about 13 at the time
- of the Battle of Little Big Horn (1876), too young to fight, but
- old enough to be expected to scalp a dead 7th cavalryman. He
- managed to complete his task, but not without throwing up a couple
- of times.
- --
- Krista Anderson, krista@ihlpf.att.com or ihlpf!krista@att.att.com
- I don't want to be here; I want to be in an Agatha Christie novel,
- or in a musical, like Mary Poppins.
-