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- From: mara@Panix.Com (Mara Chibnik)
- Newsgroups: soc.feminism
- Subject: Re: Women's and men's safety
- Date: 3 Jan 1993 01:16:38 GMT
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- andyw@meaddata.COM (Andy Welter) writes, reasonably enough:
-
- >I think part of the difference in fear about violence between men and
- >women is just a difference in attitude about getting hurt. This is
- >not a scientific survey, but men just seem to be more accepting of
- >personal risk than women.
-
- Where does this difference come from? Does it make sense in the real
- world for it to exist? Suppose we say no, and want to set about
- changing it. That is, we want to change the difference in attitude
- about getting hurt so that men and women are, in general, about
- equally likely to accept personal risk. Let's assume further that
- there is no biological differentiation along these lines, so that
- we can, at least theoretically, bring about equality in this
- respect.
-
- Do we want to make women more accepting of risk, or to make men less
- accepting of risk, or both?
-
- I maintain that most (if not all) differences pertaining to
- acceptance of risk are learned. Girls tend to be kept closer to
- whatever adult is watching them, to be warned faster about being
- careful, to be played with less roughly, to be expected to play less
- risky games. I think it would be great for girls to be freed up in
- this regard.
-
- At the same time, I think that boys are encouraged to boast about
- their willingness to do dangerous things, and that they are taught
- that exercising prudence is not something to be proud of, because it
- is less "manly" than what is commonly called courage.
-
- >When you look at things like skydiving, whitewater rafting, bungee
- >jumping, sports you can get hurt playing, etc, men seem to be more
- >tolerant of a given level of risk than women would be. When you
- >couple that attitude with a situation where there really is a
- >difference in safety between men and women (walking in bad
- >neighborhoods) you end up with a really big diffence in your perceived
- >level of safety.
-
- >I think the issue that needs to be addressed is actual measurable
- >differences in safety, not what peoples FEELINGs are.
-
- Why? I believe that the issue of feelings (and why the upper case?
- it reads as though you're sneering) is an extremely important one.
- It is not the same issue as that of personal safety, but both are
- important. And they are related issues, so that considering each is
- helpful in considering the other.
-
- --
-
- Mara Chibnik
- mara@panix.com Life is too important to be taken seriously.
-
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