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- From: djohns@elm.circa.ufl.edu (David A. Johns)
- Newsgroups: soc.feminism
- Subject: Re: Version Five -- I better shut up!
- Date: 30 Dec 1992 17:19:00 GMT
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- In article <1hfsncINN6kb@agate.berkeley.edu> gazit@cs.duke.edu (Hillel) writes:
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- # What do you know about my life that you can say so surely that I'm
- # wrong when I say that I was discriminated against by affirmative
- # action?
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- Two points, neither of which *necessarily* applies to you:
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- First, if 10 males are turned down for a position that a woman gets,
- all 10 can't claim they lost the job to affirmative action. Nine of
- them would have lost it anyway.
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- Second, if the assumptions underlying affirmative action are correct
- -- that women and minorities have been systematically excluded from
- certain positions -- then the position you thought you lost to
- affirmative action wouldn't have been available at all if that
- discrimination hadn't taken place.
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- David Johns
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