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- From: lukoff@carson.u.washington.edu (Fred Lukoff)
- Subject: Re: Sexist language
- Message-ID: <1992Dec25.031803.23063@u.washington.edu>
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- Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
- References: <1992Dec14.044024.22225@Princeton.EDU> <1992Dec14.061313.5784@Princeton.EDU> <1992Dec16.103211.10829@vax.oxford.ac.uk>
- Date: Fri, 25 Dec 1992 03:18:03 GMT
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- In article <1992Dec16.103211.10829@vax.oxford.ac.uk> wilcox@vax.oxford.ac.uk writes:
- >In article <1992Dec14.061313.5784@Princeton.EDU>, roger@crux.Princeton.EDU (Roger Lustig) writes:
- >> In article <1992Dec14.044024.22225@Princeton.EDU> grweiss@ernst.Princeton.EDU (Gregory Robert Weiss) writes:
- >[about first-year students]
- >>>Why be kind? ;-> I think we should call them all freshlings. It's PC;
- >>>neither masculine nor feminine, but it still has that derogatory potential so
- >>>important when labelling freshmen. :-)
- >>
- >> Absolutely. In fact, it makes them sound like fish -- small fry, to be
- >> exact.
- >
- >Why not use the non-sexist term which has been current in the UK for a while:
- >Freshers. It has that semi-derogatory connotation, it can easily be said with a
- >sneer and its compounds (Freshers' Fair, Freshers' Bop et al) roll easily off
- >the tongue.
- >--
- >
- >Stephen Wilcox | For Sale: Posts in British Government. Suit
- >wilcox@vax.oxford.ac.uk | outgoing American. Highest bids accepted.
-
- Oh, I'm sorry, that *is* your real new term for freshman. Excuse me.
- Before we worry about freshmen, we should change the term for second-year
- students, for, after all, sophomore is descended from 'sophos' (wise) and
- 'moros' (fool), and 'sophomoric' means both of or pertaining to a
- sophomore and intellectually pretentious, or immature.
- Why make up terms? Let the language handle itself.
- "Fresher", indeed.
-