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- From: muffy@remarque.berkeley.edu (Muffy Barkocy)
- Newsgroups: soc.bi
- Subject: Re: Het males & bi-femmes
- Date: 30 Dec 92 14:10:21
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- In-reply-to: robear@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu's message of 28 Dec 92 10:11:17 GMT
-
- In article <85883@ut-emx.uucp> robear@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Jay Michael) writes:
- [discussing types of relationships]
- > F <____________> M <____________> F (polyamorous male)
-
- > I'm not going to say much about this because 1) It's not really bi-
- > related, and 2) It would seem the females are getting the shaft.
-
- It certainly *could* be bi-related, though. In a situation like this,
- it is quite common for the two part-time partners to have other partners
- of their own (who might well be of the same sex).
-
- As far as "getting the shaft," I have been in this situation with a man,
- and it was one of the better relationships I have ever had. The
- "females" are only "getting the shaft" if they're being lied to.
- Otherwise, this can be quite a happy arrangement.
-
- > F_____________F It is this situation that mandates the
- > \ / bisexuality of the F's, in order to complete
- > \ / the emotional loop and raise all three
- > \ / to a sum greater than the individual totals.
- > M Perhaps this symbol has something to do with
- > the standard 'bi-triangle'?
-
- > This again deals a great deal with polyamory, but forms an equality
- > by the triangular relationship between the three. A Triad, a trio, the
- > three muskateers, etc., which is acceptible to the het male perspective.
-
- It kind of depends on how you define bisexuality, actually. You have
- specfied an "emotional loop" of energy between the people. While sex
- helps with this, it is not actually necessary for the two women to have
- sex for them to have a very close emotional connection, particularly if
- they each already have strong connections to another person. Even if I
- am not attracted to the people my SO gets involved with, I still feel
- strongly towards them.
-
- You've also left out an interesting part of the whole interaction. My
- SO and I have both been involved with two people. In both cases, there
- was clearly an interaction between me and the person, my SO and the
- person, and "me&SO" and the person. That is, there was a relationship
- with the entity formed by our relationship as well. In our current
- situation, there is an all-three-of-us entity that is a lot of fun and
- which I hope will develop more. I'm also hoping, when things get more
- worked out, that there will actually be two more interactions, so that
- each of the "couples" has an entity which interacts with the other
- person as well. Your "triangle" format leaves out all of this
- complexity, which I am starting to feel is the best aspect of a three-
- person relationship. The triangle suggests that there are only
- person-person strong interactions.
-
- Then, of course, you get into the *other* relationships people might be
- in, and it gets even *more* complex...*smile*.
-
- Muffy
-
- --
-
- Muffy Barkocy | ~Can you tell me how much bleeding/it
- muffy@mica.berkeley.edu | takes to fill a word with meaning and/
- "amorous inclinations"? Aha! I'm | how much how much death it takes/to give
- not "not straight," I'm *inclined*.| a slogan breath?~ - Bruce Cockburn
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