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- From: alan@auntbea.austin.ibm.com (Alan R. Weiss)
- Subject: Re: Understanding
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- Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 20:55:56 GMT
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- In article <MUFFY.92Dec23080635@remarque.berkeley.edu> muffy@remarque.berkeley.edu (Muffy Barkocy) writes:
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- >What does this have to do with anything? Last I heard, we were talking
- >about feminism. Now you suddenly pull in gender-neutral language. What
- >does that have to do with people accepting someone calling themselves a
- >feminist?
-
- Muffy, this started out as a thread on gender-neutral language.
- I have been trying to keep in on this tact for billions of clock ticks.
- Please review the entire thread .... ah, shit, on second thought,
- nevermind.
-
-
- >>Feminism isn't evil - but, IMHO and the opinion of many others (including
- >>noted feminists), it has become the worst of all possible worlds -
- >>non-essential. Out of touch with the common womyn. Elitist, at times.
- >>Like most philosophies, it has evolved, and like most large constructs
- >>its lost touch with its constituents.
- >
- >You mean that it is elitist to think that women should be given the
- >opportunity to make their own choices, rather than being coerced and
- >impeded by society? This is the first I have heard of that. Could you
- >please explain to me how this is elitist?
- >
- >Muffy
- >--
- >
- >Muffy Barkocy | ~Can you tell me how much bleeding/it
- >muffy@mica.berkeley.edu | takes to fill a word with meaning and/
- >"amorous inclinations"? Aha! I'm | how much how much death it takes/to give
- >not "not straight," I'm *inclined*.| a slogan breath?~ - Bruce Cockburn
-
- Obviously you wish to attribute to me those attributes that can
- only be described as nonsensical. Do you *REALLY* think I believe this?
- Of COURSE I don't believe this. In FACT, I believe that REAL FEMINISM (tm)
- is EXACTLY this, and more. Note that this is not necessarily what
- post-modern feminism has become, IN SOME CIRCLES.
-
- I can't imagine why someone could EVER be "for" less choice.
-
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