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- From: gdb15@cl.cam.ac.uk (Guy Barry)
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- Subject: Re: Understanding
- Message-ID: <1992Dec22.221352.7488@infodev.cam.ac.uk>
- Date: 22 Dec 92 22:13:52 GMT
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- In article <MUFFY.92Dec22125257@remarque.berkeley.edu>
- muffy@remarque.berkeley.edu (Muffy Barkocy) writes:
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- >In article <1992Dec22.193747.3007@infodev.cam.ac.uk> gdb15@grebe.cl.cam.ac.uk (Guy Barry) writes:
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- >>On the other hand, if
- >>someone said to me "men can't look after children" (or pick your
- >>favourite stereotyped female activity), I could attempt to refute
- >>the stereotype.
-
- >You could, but would you?
-
- Probably not in that case, since I've no experience of looking after
- children! I do remember having a long and fruitless discussion with
- one woman who was convinced that men were uniformly useless at
- domestic organization; whenever I pointed out that my father or male
- friends of mine did most of the shopping or cleaning or ironing in
- their household, she just dismissed them as special cases, so I
- eventually gave up. But since I'm completely domestically incapable
- myself, I'm probably not the best person to argue with...
-
- >What about if someone said something like
- >"I'm so angry about the way men treat women like sex objects"? (Posting
- >on this from the other side to come...*smile*.) Would your response be
- >"but *I* don't do that"?
-
- Quite possibly, yes. I'd also attempt to explain that I'm not an
- apologist for all men, and I'm just as angry about the way some
- men treat women as she is. There's nothing more frustrating than
- spending ages trying to educate your male friends out of their
- sexist attitudes, and then confronting some woman who's convinced
- beyond all persuasion that just because you're male you must
- be as sexist as the rest of them.
-
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