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- From: alan@auntbea.austin.ibm.com (Alan R. Weiss)
- Subject: Re: Liberty (was something relevant about CO-2 long ago...)
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- Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 20:25:41 GMT
- References: <1992Dec20.175602.12196@cbnewsl.cb.att.com> <BzM9up.17rp@austin.ibm.com> <1992Dec21.173643.19241@cbnewsl.cb.att.com>
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- In article <1992Dec21.173643.19241@cbnewsl.cb.att.com> ry@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (ryerson.schwark) writes:
-
- >>Considering the fact that you commented on NOTHING in particular,
- >>j'accuse, Ry.
- >>
- >
- >Which shows that you've only been in motss about 20 minutes, since
- >you're repeating what dozens of others before you have done.
-
- Bzzt! Actually, it was soc.bi. Someone else cross-posted their
- response to soc.motss, and its been that way since. Gee, so sorry
- to be repeating what others have said. Wouldn't want to be, er,
- common :-)
-
- >>>1) Not me! However....
- >>>
- >>>2) I don't understand why you think this is a big deal and I
- >>>don't think about it much but....
- >>
- >>A question: is this a BIG DEAL for society? Clearly not.
- >>Do you want to MAKE it a big deal (i.e. move it to the forefront
- >>of people's consciousness)? Because, folks, most people out
- >>there don't consider this a big fucking deal.
- >
- >Not so clear to me.
-
- Fair enough. Where do you live? I've lived in L.A., and I've
- lived in Austin. I've visited jillions of small towns across
- America. Believe me, its not on people's minds.
- Did it even come up in the last presidential election? Hardly.
-
- >What the hell's wrong with criticizing someone who jumps out of nowhere
- >and says that sexism is a non-issue and obviously if they want to make
- >men care then they should be smoochy smoochy with them, and then they'll
- >listen.
-
- Bzzt! Again, I didn't say it was a non-issue. If you are going
- to put words into my mouth, at least let me pay you as my
- damn press secretary. I said, "not in the forefront of their minds."
- And I adovocated ONE technique to make it so.
-
-
- >>Not me, bub. I never pout, I never whine, and I only scream
- >>when Mara screams first. Yeah, hey, maybe I came off too
- >>heavy-handed. So shoot me.
- >>
- >
- >bang.
-
- I assume this is a Paulene Kael-esque critique? Fine.
-
- >
- >Ry Schwark
- >ry@usl.com
-
- Goodbye, Ry. Its been *such* a pleasure discussing the issues with you.
- Not.
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