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- From: casseres@apple.com (David Casseres)
- Newsgroups: seattle.general
- Subject: Re: Freedom, Social Responsibility, Individual Responsibility
- Message-ID: <casseres-171292160750@missmolly.apple.com>
- Date: 18 Dec 92 00:16:55 GMT
- References: <1992Dec10.023007.16159@eskimo.com> <1992Dec10.154219.11498@ObjecTime.on.ca>
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- In article <1992Dec10.154219.11498@ObjecTime.on.ca>,
- peter@helix.ObjecTime.on.ca (Peter Epstein) wrote:
- >
- > Although this thread is dangerously close to drifting into outright political
- > philosophy, I just have to follow up: First, I agree with you 100%.
- > What you say also implies that "income redistribution" should be eliminated.
- > Why should someone who chooses to get a good education and a good job pay for
- > those who choose to drop out of school and collect welfare? The job of the
- > government is to protect people from one another via a police force and a legal
- > system. Why should I be forced to be an altruist? Here in Canada, we never
- > really had a decent foundation for freedom, and we are becoming more and more
- > socialist, as the U.S. does the same.
-
- So far, not a blessed word about bicycles.
-
- > I live on Ottawa (Ontario), and they're
- > trying to put in a helmet law here too. They try to justify it by saying that
- > it will lower health care costs, which are shared (we have fully socialized
- > medicine, and it doesn't work very well). The answer to that argument is that
- > we should let people ride without helmets AND we should let them pay for the
- > resulting medical expenses through a private medical system. The increase in
- > socialism really upsets me too.
-
- Look. If you want to talk about the pros or cons of helmet laws, that's
- interesting in the rec.bikes groups. But if you want to preach
- laissez-faire capitalism, or Trotskyism, or libertarianism, or liberalism,
- or Marxism-Leninism, or Objectivism, or Social Darwinism, or Old Fogey
- Fiscalism, or militarism, deconstructionism, creationism or any other
- goddamn -ism, KEEP IT THE HELL OUT of the rec.bikes groups, for god's sake.
- I have directed followups to talk.politics.misc -- maybe it will give
- those folks something new to wank about.
-
- --
-
- David Casseres
- Exclaimer: Wow!
-