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- From: henry@zoo.toronto.edu (Henry Spencer)
- Subject: Re: satellite costs etc.
- Message-ID: <C0947C.GJ1@zoo.toronto.edu>
- Date: Sun, 3 Jan 1993 00:04:23 GMT
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- In article <1993Jan1.165738.24729@ke4zv.uucp> gary@ke4zv.UUCP (Gary Coffman) writes:
- >>... you can put the spare satellite in the same
- >>orbital slot as the operational one... Result, no repointing. Only
- >>the control room needs to even *know* which bird is live.
- >
- >Redundancy is always desirable if it's affordable, but there is a practical
- >difficulty with having *cold* spares in orbit. Will they work when we need
- >them? They have to be cold spares if they share the same orbital slot and
- >frequencies. That's why spare capacity is not operated cold. It's located
- >in another spot where it can be kept as a *hot* spare that can be tested...
-
- Testing co-located spares is trivial. Once a week at midnight (or
- whenever is convenient), switch to one of the spares for ten minutes.
- Remember, switching among co-located birds does *not* disrupt service
- for more than the time taken to turn one off and the other on (or,
- worst case, the time taken to do that once, realize that the spare
- is not working, and do it again).
-
- >>The big expense
- >>of doing most anything in space is getting into LEO; cutting that cost
- >>massively makes *everything* more feasible. It becomes much more
- >>attractive to develop a tug capable of bringing things back down from
- >>GEO, or a reentry capsule capable of landing a payload too big for a
- >>DC cargo bay. Neither of these devices is technologically difficult...
- >
- >Well if they're too big for DC, then they can't *get* into LEO in
- >the first place by that "cheap" launch method...
-
- I note we have changed the subject; thank you for conceding my point.
-
- As for getting them up there, sure they can: assemble them in orbit.
- On-site assembly is normal practice when device X has to be set up at
- location Y but is too big for economical transport there when fully
- assembled. (Of course, in principle you could then disassemble them to
- bring them back, but it's not really needed. Coming down is the easy
- part.)
-
- >It's not impossible to deploy mulitple special purpose vehicles in
- >space, of course, but cheap as an airliner ticket they ain't.
-
- Cheap as an airliner ticket, no, but much cheaper than even a small
- "feeder airline" airliner. If you can get them into orbit cheaply, it
- will be worthwhile to build and operate them. The vehicles themselves
- are not that expensive, especially if you can recover them afterward
- for re-use (of subassemblies, at least).
- --
- "God willing... we shall return." | Henry Spencer @ U of Toronto Zoology
- -Gene Cernan, the Moon, Dec 1972 | henry@zoo.toronto.edu utzoo!henry
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