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- From: keithley@apple.com (Craig Keithley)
- Newsgroups: sci.space
- Subject: Re: Latest Pegasus news?
- Message-ID: <keithley-291292200655@kip2-59.apple.com>
- Date: 30 Dec 92 04:07:13 GMT
- References: <1992Dec27.164247.20711@ke4zv.uucp> <72528@cup.portal.com>
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- In article <72528@cup.portal.com>, BrianT@cup.portal.com (Brian Stuart
- Thorn) wrote:
- >
- > >> That was those despicable fools at NASA doing this.
- > >
- > >here you lost me. You seem to live in a very black and white world. You
- > >assume that since I don't support everything NASA does (even its mistakes)
- > >that I must oppose everything NASA does.
- >
- > I went off the deep end on that one and hereby apologize, Allen.
- > Maybe it's because I don't recall you ever saying a kind word about
- > NASA or one of its programs.
- >
- > >This is not the case. There is lots of great stuff going on at NASA. I
- > >criticize the unproductive things NASA does so that we can have more of
- > >the good stuff. Why does that bother you so much?
- >
- > Because very seldom does anyone ever mention the great stuff
- > going on at NASA.
- >
- > >> Just because NASA isn't deep in development of a new space booster
- > >> (why bother when SDIO already is)
- > >
- > >NASA shouldn't be developing OR operating any operational space transport
- > >system. That is outside its charter and is ultimately wasteful and harmful
- > >to lower cost solutions.
- >
- > Agreed but with one exception. Presently there is no means other
- > than Shuttle to send people into space. When MacDac or someone
- > else develops a system to send people into space, and a new firm
- > or organization gets going to do the dirty work of launching, then
- > and only then will I be in favor of kicking NASA out of the manned
- > space transportation arena.
- >
- > >The problem is that you seem to think asking the question: "is
- > >there a cheaper way to do this" is treason.
- >
- > No, I think that urging the elimination of our only manned space
- > transport system before a proven replacement is available is
- > contrary to the cause of space exploration and development. When
- > someone shows me that they have a workable, cheaper manned space
- > system, then I'll go along with them. But remember, Space Shuttle
- > looked cheaper and faster than the alternatives early in its
- > design phase, too. The transition from paper to flight article
- > seems to have a serious negative effect on launch systems. Asking
- > if there is a cheaper way to do this is a good idea. Saying, "this
- > system which we plan to fly in five or six years definitely will
- > be cheaper than Shuttle" must be carefully considered.
- >
- > >As an engineer I ask myself that same question every single day. Why do you
- > >think NASA shouldn't worry about the costs?
- > >
- > >> It's not fair to denounce NASA for
- > >> laying the foundation while praising OSC and McDAC for erecting the
- > >> skyscrapers.
- >
- > >As to denouncing NASA, I praise NASA when they lay the foundation. I
- > >condemn them when they prevent the skyscraper from being built.
- >
- > But didn't you just say that NASA should not be operating a space
- > transport system? If this is so, then how is NASA preventing private
- > industry from building said skyscraper?
- >
- > -Brian
- >
- > -------------------------------------------------------------------------
- > Brian S. Thorn "If ignorance is bliss,
- > BrianT@cup.portal.com this must be heaven."
- > -Diane Chambers, "Cheers"
- > -------------------------------------------------------------------------
-
- Craig Keithley
- Apple Computer, Inc.
- keithley@apple.com
- "I have absolutely no responsibility in this matter, what-so-ever"
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