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- From: dietz@cs.rochester.edu (Paul Dietz)
- Subject: Re: Justification for the Space Program
- Message-ID: <1992Dec29.011735.16300@cs.rochester.edu>
- Organization: University of Rochester
- References: <1992Dec28.193940.10495@aio.jsc.nasa.gov> <1992Dec28.223226.12849@aio.jsc.nasa.gov>
- Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 01:17:35 GMT
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- In article <1992Dec28.223226.12849@aio.jsc.nasa.gov> Dr. Norman J. LaFave <lafave@ial4.jsc.nasa.gov> writes:
-
- > My arguement has the benefit of centuries of historical precedent
- > which is more than your "There will never be benefits worth the
- > expense" arguement you are spouting which can be
- > easily argued against using the same historical
- > information. Can I prove my assertion?
- > No. However, neither can you prove the contrary.
-
-
- Let me try this again: your historical argument is just bullshit. The
- reasoning is vacuous, independent of the truth of the conclusion.
- There are too many differences between then and now to accept the
- argument as anything more than sloganeering. For example: (1) the
- vessels they used to explore were straightforward extensions of known
- technology, (2) the lands explored did not involve significant
- differences in technology in order to survive [those that did, like
- the high Artic, were left largely alone for centuries], (3) the
- resources they found could be exploited at low cost and yet returned
- benefits large in proportion to the size of their economies. These
- conditions don't appear to apply to space.
-
- The track record so far in space is that some limited automated
- applications are useful, or profitable (comsats are profitable, at
- least for the moment; the others are government-run, so we don't know
- if they really would be profitable.) Space resources? We went
- to the moon and found... very little of practical value. Space
- manufacturing? Endlessly hyped with little to show for it.
- Microgravity research? Impartial scientific review says it isn't
- worth much.
-
- You advance the straw man argument that I am arguing that there will
- never be any benefits. As you say, we can't know that. But lack of
- certainty doesn't mean we are absolved from the need to make decisions
- on how scarce funds are expended. You can't just say "you can't prove
- me wrong, so gimme." At least, not with a straight face.
-
- Paul F. Dietz
- dietz@cs.rochester.edu
-