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- From: hrubin@pop.stat.purdue.edu (Herman Rubin)
- Subject: Re: Justification for the Space Program
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- In article <1hgakbINN788@access.usask.ca> choy@skorpio.usask.ca (I am a terminator.) writes:
- >In article <BztyEy.Crz@mentor.cc.purdue.edu>, hrubin@pop.stat.purdue.edu (Herman Rubin) writes:
- >> The US economy might be growing in dollar terms, but not in real terms
- >|> per capita. And one does not benefit if others catch up at one's
- >|> expense.
-
- >If others catch up, then they can work together with us instead of playing
- >catch up. If others never made a single step to catch up, I suppose we would
- >benefit?
-
- For others to catch up, we have to stand still. In nature, standing still
- means death. Also, for the others to catch up, there has to be enough "up"
- to be caught.
-
- >|> Academic salaries are lower in real terms now than 20 years ago, and
- >|> the research which drives the future is being curtailed. The emphasis
- >|> on short-term practical results is a vain attempt to keep a reasonable
- >|> position, and will soon backfire.
-
- >I think people should be trained to make research results practical. Also,
- >research reports should facilitate such efforts. Then those who are inclined
- >to do research can get a chance to do research without having to worry so
- >much about making their results practical.
-
- THIS is what is, unfortunately, now being proposed. But this will mean the
- end of real innovative research. It is true that the time between finding
- basic results and applying them is shortening, but it will never vanish.
-
- Without atronomy, it is doubtful if space exploration and travel would
- ver have been done. But apart from the calendar and predicting eclipses,
- no practical applications have yet been made of the astronomical research.
-
- Much of the mathematics and statistics being applied was studied as "pure"
- research long before its applicability was seen. Would the number theory
- needed for work on cryptography have been created for that purpose? No, it
- was just pure research which led to it, without any idea that practical
- consequences would occur years, and even centuries, later. Probability
- was studied as a means to better strategies for games of chance, and it
- was only later that it was applied. The same holds for analytic function
- theory, group theory, and even linear algebra.
-
- Did Darwin and Wallace have any applications for their observations in
- mind when they made their studies and arrived at their conclusions about
- evolution and natural selection? Did Maxwell foresee radio and X-rays
- when he derived his equations about the electromagnetic field, or even
- dynamos and electic motors? When Faraday was asked by the British Prime
- Minister of what use was his discovery, I know of two answers in the
- legendary literature, one, "Of what use is a baby?", and the other,
- "You will find a way to tax it."
-
- Radioactive decay and nuclear transmutation were discovered totally by
- accident. Nuclear fusion was deduced more from astronomy than anything
- else. And nuclear fission was only discovered by wondering why barium,
- strontium, etc., were found in uranium deposits.
-
- There is a search for more efficient superconductors for eminently practical
- reasons. But superconductivity itself was a surprise.
-
- If we know what we will find, it is not research. If we do not know, we can
- only grope. It takes the imaginative mind to see what is there, even when
- groping.
-
- >|> The US now has more government jobs than manufacturing. The universities
- >|> are catering to the ignoramuses coming out of the high schools, and standards
- >|> are just about dead.
-
- >I reflect on my public school. I think the teachers need to do much better.
- >They are too afraid students won't work on their own. However, they offered
- >little motivation to students to work. Students just followed rules to get
- >marks. They didn't have their hearts in work.
-
- >>Consider China. The private sector there will grow more than 20% this
- >>year, and exceed the size of the public sector; aggregate GNP growth
- >>will be in double digits. At current growth rates, China's GNP could
- >>exceed the entire OECD's by the year 2010. The per capita GNP could
- >>reach current US levels within a generation, at current rates of
- >>growth.
-
- >|> Does the world have enough resources for this?
-
- >We must wait and see. Be more efficient. That's an order.
-
- Efficiency only goes so far. Except for the insects, the great majority
- of land animals are warm-blooded. Warm-blooded animals are far less
- efficient from the energy standpoint, often using more energy just to
- maintain life than for all other purposes. Man has raised his standard
- of living by being far more wasteful of energy.
-
- This group is concerned with space. To get into space, we must use gobs
- of energy. But I believe that what we find there will be worth it; the
- principle of serendipity is not over.
- --
- Herman Rubin, Dept. of Statistics, Purdue Univ., West Lafayette IN47907-1399
- Phone: (317)494-6054
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