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- From: BrianT@cup.portal.com (Brian Stuart Thorn)
- Newsgroups: sci.space
- Subject: Re: ASTM, Saturn and MOL (Was Re: MOL)
- Message-ID: <72444@cup.portal.com>
- Date: Sat, 26 Dec 92 15:12:10 PST
- Organization: The Portal System (TM)
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- >In article <23DEC199220530775@judy.uh.edu> wingo%cspara.decnet@Fedex.Msfc.Nasa
- .
- >Gov writes:
- >>>...The third stage (S-V) was to have been powered by 2 RL-10
- >>>engines. The S-V was NOT Centaur...
- >>
- >>I can buy the four engines and 6 engine bit, but according to document I
- >>have found here and the Book "Rocket Scientist" and Medaris's " Cound down
- >>to Decision" These were desginated the Centaur, although I will go back and
- >>look and make sure of this just in case.
- >
- >Stages To Saturn, NASA SP-4206, says specifically that the original S-V
- >stage was to be a Centaur. It was slated to be the third stage of the
- >Saturn C-1 and the fourth stage of Saturn C-2 (which used the S-IV as
- >its third stage and was to have a new second stage). (The Saturn C-3
- >moved things up one more stage, with the S-IV as fourth stage, the
- >C-2's second stage as third stage, and another new second stage.)
- >
- >Incidentally, it's important to understand that (a) there were a lot
- >of Saturn designs proposed -- the same study that nailed down the C-1-2-3
- >scheme also recomended against proceeding with the Saturn A-1, A-2, and
- >B-1, and those were only the most promising survivors from a longer list --
- >and (b) the same name sometimes got re-used (there were at least three
- >different vehicles named "Saturn C-3" at various times).
- >
- >>>The 'C' designation was dropped somewhere along the way, with the Saturn C-1
- >>>becoming simply Saturn 1...
- >>
- >>According to Dr. Sthulinger and Konrad Dannenburg the C-1 designation was
- >>dropped when the CSM was put on the stack...
- >
- >The C designation was dropped in Feb 1963 when terminology was tidied up.
- >Before then, it was a C-1 whether or not it had Apollo hardware on top.
- >--
- >"God willing... we shall return." | Henry Spencer @ U of Toronto Zoology
- > -Gene Cernan, the Moon, Dec 1972 | henry@zoo.toronto.edu utzoo!henry
- >
- Thanks for all that info, my copy of 'Stages to Saturn' is in a box
- stored away somewhere. But wasn't this discussion REALLY about
- whether Centaur actually flew on a Saturn? Not was it intended to,
- but did it ever go up on one? It didn't, to the best of my knowledge.
-
- -Brian
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