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- From: prb@access.digex.com (Pat)
- Newsgroups: sci.space
- Subject: Re: satellite costs etc.
- Date: 25 Dec 1992 20:43:02 GMT
- Organization: UDSI
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- References: <BzMwDx.KGw@zoo.toronto.edu> <1992Dec23.111923.22269@ke4zv.uucp> <BzqBvs.J8H@zoo.toronto.edu>
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- In article <BzqBvs.J8H@zoo.toronto.edu> henry@zoo.toronto.edu (Henry Spencer) writes:
- >In article <1992Dec23.111923.22269@ke4zv.uucp> gary@ke4zv.UUCP (Gary Coffman) writes:
- >>... A ten year life zero defects
- >>GEO comsat like K2 is much cheaper than a 1 year life package
- >>that costs 20 times less. That's because most of the investment is
- >>not in the satellite, it's in the Earth based terminals that use it.
- >
- >I don't grasp this argument. It's the same Earth-based terminals either way.
- >If you're providing a service, you plan to do so over more than one satellite
- >lifetime, either way. Twenty years of service is cheaper with mass-produced
- >short-life satellites, even with your (fairly unfavorable) assumptions.
- >
-
- Actually, henry. both of you are sticking to the clarke orbit model.
-
- Most of the effort in the Telecom industry is oriented towards
- LEO comm sats. store and forward or multiple fast relay satellittes.
-
- in this case, the degree of investment in the ground terminals becomes
- very small, terminals costing under $1,000.00 and satellittes being
- cheaper, because they are smaller, lighter and need less powerful elements.
- Obviously, for a 72 sat constellation, like motorolas or Inmarsats 21
- sat config, you want to try and keep the lifetimes up, but if launch
- costs drop significantly, then you can deal with replacing birds
- on a regular basis.
-
-
- >>... Since the satellite represents a single point failure node...
- >
- >This is your assumption, not a self-evident fact. Communications networks
- >normally have redundancy to cover predictable single-point failures.
- >Even today's gold-plated satellite networks do, despite the expense.
- >
-
- Actually, most comm sats, have lots of extra solar cells, spare
- gyros and thrusters and spare transponders to handle loss of units.
-
- now if there were some cheap way to go up and refurb these birds, then
- you would be talking some real savings.
- >>... and since for most orbits
- >>the satellites aren't retrievable or repairable, and DC won't change
- >>that...
- >
- >Again, your assumption, not a self-evident fact. Cheap launches change
- >almost everything, including the feasibility of retrieval and repair.
-
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- Oncve again, for LEO commsats, rendevous is quite feasible.
-
- you could even use the shuttle to grab them up.
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- pat
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