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- From: blumb@sage.cc.purdue.edu (Bill Blum)
- Subject: Re: Justification for the Space Program
- Message-ID: <Bzt8Dw.Fzs@mentor.cc.purdue.edu>
- Summary: Cut it out.
- Keywords: Flame retardants are needed.
- Sender: news@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (USENET News)
- Organization: SEDS National Board Member
- References: <1992Dec22.020021.7541@cs.rochester.edu> <22DEC199214411374@judy.uh.edu> <1992Dec22.232911.17212@cs.rochester.edu>
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- Date: Fri, 25 Dec 1992 10:13:08 GMT
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- In article <1992Dec22.232911.17212@cs.rochester.edu> dietz@cs.rochester.edu (Paul Dietz) writes:
- >In article <22DEC199214411374@judy.uh.edu> wingo%cspara.decnet@Fedex.Msfc.Nasa.Gov writes:
- >
- > > I will no longer debate you on this subject. You have your "opinions",
- > > which is all your responses to date have been, and I have mine. You
- > > work for your worldview and we will work for ours.
- > >
- > > You speak of quasi-religiousness when the exact same thing can be said
- > > of your asserations.
- >
- >Oh, *please*. I've posted numerous quantitative arguments in rebuttal
- >to your claims. I can even provide references for those numbers, if
- >you'd like.
-
- Oh *please*.
-
- Both sides can drag quantitative arguments out of every nook and cranny of
- every publication in existence until the rest of USENET dies at their
- terminals.
-
- Yes, I believe in space exploration. I don'T subscribe to the belief that
- it is absolutely necessary for survival...I do think that it serves a
- purpose, and should be continued.
-
- I believe that there are some amazing possibilities out there, beyond
- Earth'S orbit.
- I've noticed that many people consider "dreaming" about such things and
- working towards it with all we can bring to bear too overzealous.
- May I remind some of the skeptics that the Internet itself was the product
- of a bunch of people who's sole puropose was to ensure a network by which
- NORAD could communicate. Zealotry pays off in ways you can't imagine in
- the short term.
-
-
- > > I have work to do. I live in the real world. If you actually think
- > > things are getting better from a world perspective then you are truly
- > > blind. This is a simple fact, not a flame.
- >
- >By most objective measures, the world is getting better. The world
- >has never been, on average, wealthier, healthier, better fed, or
- >better educated than it is today. These are *facts*. You can look up
- >the numbers. These trends have been going on for decades, in spite of
- >the continuous (and continuously wrong) doomsaying.
-
- Gee, Mr. Dietz. Go to Somalia. Talk with the people. They would strongly
- disagree with you about being better off.
-
- It is a FACT that the future is uncertain.
- (_Introduction to Nuclear Engineering_, 2nd Edition, John Lamarsh)
- -begin quote-
- Whether sufficient uranium will be available to fuel expanding
- world nuclear capacity is an issue of continuing controversy even among
- experts. Uranium itself is not an especially rare element. It is present
- in the earth's crust at a concentration by weight of about four parts per
- million, which makes uranium more abundant than such common substances as
- silver, mercury, and iodine. There are an estimated 10^14 tons of uranium
- located at a depth of less than 12 or 13 miles, but most of this is at such
- low concentrations it WILL PROBABLY NEVER BE RECOVERED, (boldface added by
- me)
- -end quote-
-
- Yes, Mr Dietz, there are abundant supplies of some materials on Earth.
- But be nice to the zealots...they occassionally come up with some brillant
- ideas which influence a lot of people. Like the Internet.
-
- Often, zealots lose sight of reality. YEt just as often, skeptics lose
- their clues.
-
- Here's wishing everyone a Merry Christmas, and a Happy News Year, and
- (insert any other holiday I missed here).
-
- --
- Bill Blum * "God willing...we shall return."
- Purdue University * Gene Cernan, The Moon, Dec 1972(BSEE P.U. 56)
- School of Nuclear Engineering * Member of the SEDS National Board
- blumb@sage.cc.purdue.edu * Ad Astra Per Ardua!!
-