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- From: oneil@aio.jsc.nasa.gov (Graham O'Neil)
- Subject: Re: funding for Lunar Prospector urgently needed
- Message-ID: <1992Dec24.180240.26026@aio.jsc.nasa.gov>
- Followup-To: sci.space
- Summary: Balancing other funding sources and other programs
- Keywords: Lunar, SEI, Prospector, Funding, Payload
- Organization: nasa-jsc
- Date: Thu, 24 Dec 1992 18:02:40 GMT
- Lines: 90
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- In <22DEC199214281236@judy.uh.edu> Dennis Wingo writes:
-
- >Lunar Resource Mapper is not dead as of this time. Work is still
- >progressing at the two contractors selected for the Phase A study.
- >(Martin & Boeing) This at present is unfunded by NASA but indications
- >are that money will be available for the studies in the spring. So
- >don't count LRM dead yet.
-
- Note what Dennis is saying is that if work is being performed
- on LRM, it is company profits that are being used. Over the last 20
- years, there have been many years where, US funding would be available
- in the spring for lunar science missions. However I would not count
- LRM as dead, even if funding does not materialize in the spring of 93.
-
- >Also there are other Lunar missions that are NASA supported and under
- >consideration. One is the Lunar Geophysical Explorer sponsored by
- >JPL. There i s also another private effort waiting in the wings if
- >these NASA supported mission do not come off. No I won't give any
- >information on the private effort yet. It will not go forward unless
- >the NASA efforts clearly are not going to be funded. This effort is
- >not in any way connected to Lunar Prospector however and is guaranteed
- >to cost less and already has significant aerospace support.
-
- There are and have been many NASA supported [and even funded]
- studies and Phase A projects for Lunar missions. JPL's LGE is at
- present NASA supported but not NASA funded.
-
- I guess the real question is where this unnamed private effort
- will go forward from. How much system engineering has been done,
- mission planning, infrastructure for scientific data acquisition,
- analysis and archival, design maturity...? Even if this project
- doesn't come to fruition, I would like to see the details on how it
- will cost less than Lunar Prospector. There are sure to be many
- lessons learned from that information.
-
- If it costs less, how much science will be on it? And what does
- significant aerospace support really mean? For instance, the
- University of Colorado mission [Hanson and Humble] has imaging as a
- priority, but few science instruments as a payload. I suspect they
- have even less money than LRM, LGE, or LEI, but they certainly have
- significant aerospace support. And that might be a different community
- than space science support, or SEI precursor mission support.
-
- And then in <22DEC199220260175@judy.uh.edu>, where Dennis seemingly
- misunderstands Henry's point
-
- >>In article <BzoqqC.24@zoo.toronto.edu>, henry@zoo.toronto.edu (Henry
- Spencer) writes...
-
- >>The $30M in question was first-year funding to get Griffin's entire effort
- >>started; this was to include the beginnings of the mapper project, which
- >>would end up costing $30M or so for the spacecraft proper.
- >>
- >>Griffin didn't get it.
-
- >The money is coming from JSC internal funds as well as left over
- >funds from other operations at Griffin's code. I repeat the project
- >is not dead as of this time.
-
- Stop work orders on this have been issued from both Building 1
- [carryover, discretionary] and the Nova building [other money pots
- related to SEI, or code SL]. While I wouldn't call it dead, employees
- on both government and contractor sides are being Approved For
- Reassignment [AFRed] or worse. Indeed any NASA centers discretionary
- funding can only go so far.
-
- >This money also does not affect the Lunar Geophysical Explorer which
- >is not part of SEI. It seems that you can get money as long as the
- >SEI tag is not attached. Heck there is 5 million dollars this year for
- >the Lunar power beaming project and money is being spent even now for
- >the Lunar far side telescope project.
-
- It may seem you can get money if SEI is not tagged along, but lets
- look for money for real hardware, money for launch, and money for
- mission operations... Help me, I can't find the line item for those
- elements of a Lunar mission in the NASA budget, or the Center budgets.
- Maybe Marshall has some discretionary money for this that you've seen?
-
- Meanwhile LEI is working to get Prospector off the ground, with or
- without US government funds and in a timely fashion. Checkout the
- archives at ames in /pub/LEI.
-
- graham
-
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