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- From: roberts@cmr.ncsl.nist.gov (John Roberts)
- Subject: Accounting
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- -From: aws@iti.org (Allen W. Sherzer)
- -Subject: Re: Terminal Velocity of DCX? (was Re: Shuttle ...)
- -Date: 22 Dec 92 16:07:15 GMT
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- -In article <71877@cup.portal.com> BrianT@cup.portal.com (Brian Stuart Thorn) writes:
- -> The Space Transportation budget this year was about $5 billion, if
- -> memory serves. NASA flew 8 Shuttle missions this year.
-
- -This number does not include NASA overhead, amortization of the orbiter,
- -amortization of Shuttle development costs, and a host of other costs. Adding
- -those in puts the cost at well over a billion per flight. Hell, interest
- -costs on development alone adds over a quarter billion per flight (BTW,
- -this interest is not a sunk cost since it is part of the national debt and
- -we are paying for it even now).
-
- Accounting is a very complex field - I'm not convinced that there's any
- obvious "right" way to do accounting. But in any event, amortization of
- past development costs is not a legitimate argument for scrapping an existing
- system. In fact, I expect that if you want to consider getting rid of an
- existing system and developing a new system to replace it, you should compare
- the *operational* costs of the existing system to the *operational plus
- development* costs of the proposed system. For instance, if you want to
- develop a radically new system that is expected to launch payloads for $10
- a pound less than the Shuttle (and assume comparable payload sizes to make it
- simple), but the new system will cost $10 billion to develop, then you have
- to show that the $10/lb saving on payload will make up for the $10 billion
- new development cost. I'd say there's a good chance that the DC approach
- can meet this criterion, but those are the numbers it has to beat, not
- just a "level playing field" comparison of operational costs or of
- operational + development costs for both.
-
- (Unless the government decides to pay for the development of DC - but
- that decision would hardly be an argument for the financial merits of DC.)
-
- Of course the Shuttle is still "under development" to some extent (i.e.
- the ASRM), but I believe those costs are included in the ~$4 billion/year.
-
- If you want, you can bring up the possibility that payload costs will also
- be reduced using a DC system, but that's a separate issue.
-
- ->You have done the 'creative accounting' here, I'd say.
-
- -No, it's NASA who is being creative by ignoring billions in cost. BTW,
- -if a private company ran their books the way NASA does they would be
- -thrown in jail for fraud.
-
- Interesting side note - some people (I don't recall who) have implied
- that a private company doing its accounting in the military/NASA style
- would get in trouble with the *IRS*. That seems a little farfetched - I'd
- think the IRS would be *happy* if companies declared taxable income that
- they didn't really earn. Of course, the *stockholders* might not be too
- happy... :-)
-
- John Roberts
- roberts@cmr.ncsl.nist.gov
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