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- From: keithley@apple.com (Craig Keithley)
- Newsgroups: sci.space
- Subject: Re: DC vs Shuttle capabilities
- Message-ID: <keithley-221292165015@kip2-37.apple.com>
- Date: 23 Dec 92 02:03:19 GMT
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- In article <ewright.725062372@convex.convex.com>, ewright@convex.com
- (Edward V. Wright) wrote:
- >
- >
- > No, we're being misquoted. What we actually said was, "Lead,
- > follow, or get the hell out of the way."
- >
-
- Ok, I've got it... Because you feel SSTO/DC-? is the only way to go, you
- think we should either
- (a) accept your points and participate in leading the charge for
- SSTO/DC-?
- -or-
- (b) follow you blindly and accept what your saying about DC-?
- -or-
- (c) get out of the way and let you redistribute the $$$ in a way we
- disagree with.
-
- What if we don't accept your points, don't want to follow you (blindly)
- and and don't want you to redistribute the $$$ in a way we disagree with?
-
- As an example, I believe that doing science on Mir is a bad idea.
- Political winds change direction quickly. Putting our scientific eggs in
- that basket, and having that basket tip over is not something I relish. I
- also have other questions about accounting methods, having Nasa pay for
- another Canadarm, etc., etc. But I'll shelve those for now...
-
- I've followed the discussion and exchanged email with Allen (et. al.)
- privately. I would like to suggest something (different?):
-
- Lets see a straw man proposal that clearly indicates (using the
- published Shuttle schedule for the next few years) when the Shuttle would
- go "off-line", what alternatives would be used for it, how much/if SSF
- would slip, when DC-1 would come on-line and so forth. Show timelines,
- costs, changes in costs, etc. If we're going to replace a Shuttle launch
- with a Titan IV, estimate lead time to acquire that Titan and so forth.
- I'll assume that all the range safety questions have been answered.
-
- If the Shuttle "detractors" wish, produce a schedule that replaces every
- Shuttle flight starting with the next one. This would used purely as a
- center for discussion, because it would have to ignore the political
- realities with cancelling the shuttle *today*.
-
- Then lets see a long term version. In the case, I'd appreciate some
- sense of political reality. Insistance that we really can stop flying the
- shuttle immediately will do nothing except convince me that you aren't
- grounded in reality.
-
- Because I've grown tired of arguing philosophy (and listening to
- arguments). Lets argue over which specific Shuttle mission can, or cannot
- be replaced. This endless frothing, which I've participated in, serves
- little purpose (other than as a questionable sporting activity).
-
- thanx,
-
- Craig Keithley
- Apple Computer, Inc.
- keithley@apple.com
- "I have absolutely no responsibility in this matter, what-so-ever"
-