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- From: ata@hfsi.uucp (John Ata - FSO)
- Subject: Re: Will the -REAL- Christians please stand up? Was: What did Judas betray?
- Message-ID: <1992Dec31.224254.11062@hfsi.uucp>
- Reply-To: ata@hfsi.UUCP (John Ata - FSO)
- Organization: HFSI, McLean VA.
- References: <1992Dec29.183758.2411@hfsi.uucp> <1992Dec30.014243.11695@fsl.noaa.gov> <1992Dec30.052800.4534@hfsi.uucp> <1992Dec31.010125.21864@fsl.noaa.gov>
- Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1992 22:42:54 GMT
- Lines: 77
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- In article <1992Dec31.010125.21864@fsl.noaa.gov> bear@kestrel.fsl.noaa.gov (Bear Giles) writes:
- >In article <1992Dec30.052800.4534@hfsi.uucp> ata@hfsi.UUCP (John Ata - FSO) writes:
- >>But yes, there
- >>usually is a distinction made between adult baptism and infant
- >>baptism. The former does go through a rather rigorous process or
- >>preparation, but the latter does not (the parents and godparents
- >>take the responsibility of preparing the child) But later on, the
- >>grown adult can make up its own mind and renounce its faith if it
- > ^^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^ ^^^ ^^
- >>so chooses.
- >
- >I'm speechless.
- >
- >In English, refering to an adult as _IT_ is considered extremely rude
- >because it implies that the person being discussed is no more intelligent
- >than a piece of furniture. Many people even refer to their pets by
- >HE and SHE instead of IT.
-
- Sorry, I sometimes think in gender neutral terms. If that offends you,
- please substitutute he/she (which is harder to type). Also, please note
- that the three times I mentioned "it" were not necessarily aimed at
- non-Christian. If you open your eyes and really read what I said, you will
- see that I was talking about any grown adult who had been baptized and
- confirmed, not one who necessarily renounces their faith (note the use
- of the word "can").
-
- >
- >The thought of an adult leaving the "Body of Christ" is so unacceptable
- >that you called me _IT_ three times!
-
- Now I'm speechless! :( It seems to me that if the most someone can
- say about someone's posting is that they rudely used the word "it"
- rather than "he/she", and from there go on make statements about
- the person, then the conversation really hasn't much life left.
- Truly, one does wonder, however, how *you* ever enter into a
- rational discourse with anyone who disagrees with your point of
- view.
-
- >
- >I feel that this illustrates your opinion of non-Christians quite well...
- >Of course, it is precisely this type of belief ("if you aren't a Christian
- >you're sub-human") that I left the Christian church.
-
- Of course, the question that comes to my mind is how you came to
- be of the opinion that other Christians came to have a low esteem
- for non-Christians. This posting really does make me wonder.
-
- >
- >Oh, your "the parents and godparents take the responsibility of preparing
- >the child" sounds rather like brainwashing. The parents and godparents
- >should _educate_ the child, not _prepare_ the child.
- >
- >Thank you for a most enlightening illustration of Christian thought!
-
- Obviously, you've never heard of a Prep School. Prep is short for
- Prepatory (Usually college).
-
- Well, I don't know what experiences you've had with Christians in
- the past, but it really sounds like you a little quick on taking
- the offense (no pun intended) here. My advice to you is to:
- Chill.
-
- You're welcome.
-
- >
- >
- >Bear Giles
-
-
-
-
-
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