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- From: mcgrath@cs.uiuc.edu (Robert McGrath)
- Subject: Re: Evidence for advanced causation.
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- Organization: University of Illinois, Dept of Computer Science
- References: <C038Bu.FBv@well.sf.ca.us>
- Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 21:35:39 GMT
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- In article <C038Bu.FBv@well.sf.ca.us>, sarfatti@well.sf.ca.us (Jack Sarfatti) writes in part:
- |>
- |> Some one just e-mailed me asking for evidence that creation from the future
- |> is not a matter of faith but a scientic conjecture subject to falsification
- |> according to the Popper test.
-
- Creation from the future? X happens before Y because Y made it happen?
- How is this distinguishable from "X happens before Y and the events
- are unconnected?"
-
- |> Briefly, impressionistically the clues - and
- |> they are only clues that appeal to our Sherlock Holmes bent:
- |>
- |> 1. the fact that there is a universe at all with all the cosmic coincidences
- |> needed for life see Fred Hoyle The Intelligent Universe and Barrow and
- |> Tipler's The Anthropic Cosmological Principle.
-
- I can't see anything but a tautology in the Anthropic Principle. The
- fact that we are here implies that it is possible for us to be here.
- So?
-
- |> 2. [...]
- |> legends of prophecy,
- ...which are not intended to be "scientific" explanations in any sense...
- |> subjective precognitive experiences,
- ...which are psychological experiences that have no necessary relationship
- to anything external to the individual...
- |> feelings of Divine
- |> Inspiration felt universally by all poets, artists, great scientists etc.
- ...yet more psychological experiences, fallaciously claimed to be universal
- without substantiation for that claim...
- |> - how's that for a start - all clues in a great mystery .
- Miserable. Derivative, unoriginal, poorly stated. No more than a "C",
- if that.
-
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-
- Robert E. McGrath
- Urbana Illinois
- mcgrath@cs.uiuc.edu
-