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- From: ted@eslvcr.wimsey.bc.ca (Ted Powell)
- Subject: Re: Will the -REAL- Christians please stand up? Was: What did Judas betray?
- Message-ID: <1992Dec29.033415.19670@eslvcr.wimsey.bc.ca>
- Organization: Entropy Limited, Vancouver Canada
- References: <eharbin.725547983@convex.convex.com> <GERRY.92Dec28140440@onion.cmu.edu> <eharbin.725572135@convex.convex.com>
- Date: Tue, 29 Dec 92 03:34:15 GMT
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- In article <eharbin.725572135@convex.convex.com> eharbin@convex.com (Edward Harbin) writes:
- >> On the other hand, in what non-Christian country would you choose to live?
- >
- >>In the US of A, you moron! The USA is NOT a christian nation,
- >>regardless of what scum like Pat Robertson, Ronald Reagan, etc., like
- >>to claim.
- >
- >In fact, it's a Christian society with no established religion. I don't want
- >an established religion any more than you do, but I do want a Christian
- >country and I observe most of my countrymen are Christian - a state of affairs
- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
- >I approve. Even us morons may express a preference - or is that too much
- >liberty for your taste?
-
- What methodology were you using for your observation? Have a look at:
-
- The Future of Religion
- Rodney Stark and William Sims Bainbridge
- University of California Press
- ISBN 0-520-04854-7
- BL48.S72 1984
-
- For example, in chapter 4 they discuss some of the results of a study
- conducted by the National Opinion Research Center in November 1972 (things
- may have changed since, of course, in either direction). They cite
- references for complete details of design and sampling. One of the figures
- given was the national rate for attending church more often than once a
- month. This was 54% (page 77), and of course included churches you would
- not necessarily be willing to call Christian. The metropolitan area with
- the highest church membership per 1000 population (this from a different
- study) was Provo-Orem, Utah, at 966; the lowest was Eugene-Springfield,
- Oregon, at 262 (page 71).
-
- When you say you observe _most_ of your countrymen are Christian, do you
- mean that you have observed "most" (whatever proportion that word might
- imply for you) of your sample attending a Christian church, asserting that
- they are Christian, simply behaving in a way that you approve of, or what?
-
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- ted@eslvcr.wimsey.bc.ca {ubc-cs,uunet}!van-bc!eslvcr!ted (Ted Powell)
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