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- From: hes@unity.ncsu.edu (Henry E. Schaffer)
- Subject: Re: Hoagland? What's the deal?
- Message-ID: <1992Dec28.201822.16771@ncsu.edu>
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- Organization: North Carolina State University
- References: <BzGzMz.2zp@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu> <1hk5mlINN34t@gap.caltech.edu> <BzxL3I.614@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu>
- Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1992 20:18:22 GMT
- Lines: 37
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- In article <BzxL3I.614@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu> graham@venus.iucf.indiana.edu writes:
- >In article <1hk5mlINN34t@gap.caltech.edu>, carl@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU (Carl J Lydick) writes...
- >> ...
- >>Well, let's see now:
- >> 1) It really WAS a face once, but it's eroded since it was built;
- >> 2) Well, it's not really shaped like a face, but it was designed so that,
- >> from orbit, it would LOOK like a face.
- >> 3) Maybe the "pyramids" don't look like pyramids at two-meter resolution,
- >> but if we could look at them at 2-centimeter resolution, they'd
- >> obviously be artifacts;
- >> 4) (This one's for the innumerates out there) But, given the locations of
- >> the "pyramids," Hoagland's come up with LOTS of interesting
- >> correlations. They MUST have been put where they are intentionally!
- >>Need anybody say more?
- >
- >The point of my question "Why inconclusive" was that the previous poster
- >implies that the _new_ images will be inconclusive. They haven't even
- >been obtained yet.
- >
- >It isn't good science to make a claim before having _evidence_, is it?
- ^^^^^
-
- I don't see any problem with making a "prediction" before having
- evidence. In fact, it wouldn't be a prediction if he waited
- to see the evidence first. Furthermore it is perfectly good
- science to make predictions based on current knowledge and
- hypothesis - and then to see whether the future evidence
- bears out prediction.
-
- But this doesn't get to the real point - IMHO he is really
- claiming that the face hypothesis is unfalsifiable, and giving
- the excuses which can keep the face proponents from accepting
- adverse data. Discussing this is also perfectly good science.
-
- > ...
-
- --henry schaffer n c state univ
-