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- From: kenl@origami.NoSubdomain.NoDomain (Ken Lehner)
- Subject: Re: Will the -REAL- Christians please stand up? Was: What did Judas betray?
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- Date: Mon, 28 Dec 92 19:23:07 GMT
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- In article <eharbin.725547983@convex.convex.com>, eharbin@convex.com (Edward Harbin) writes:
- |>
- |> On the other hand, in what non-Christian country would you choose to live?
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- I'd prefer the non-Christian United States, thank you.
-
- |> It was in Christian societies that both modern science and
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- Have you heard of Arabic numbers? Where exactly did geometry originate?
-
- |> liberal democracy evolved. This was not accidental.
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- Are you saying that it was the Christianity of the society that somehow
- enabled the evolution of modern science? Certainly Galileo would have
- some concern with this belief. How is it that the Christian aspect(s) of
- society contribute to science? Especially things that tend to throw doubt
- on religious teaching (e.g., evolution, cosmology, dendrochronology).
-
- |> wherever you find human suffering, Christians are in the forefront with aid
- |> aid and comfort. The Christian ethos has much of which to be proud.
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- So does the Jewish ethos, and the majority of religions. It's the actions
- in the name of those religions that some have trouble with. I personally
- have trouble with religions whose teachings allow people to dictate to
- others how to run their lives.
-
- |>
- |> We also have much of which to be humble.
- |>
- |> That the New Jerusalem has not arrived and that Christians are sinners is
- |> tragic. We deserve to have our feet held to the fire for our divisions,
- |> our hypocrisies, our failures. That being said, I note that you actually
- |> call on us not to be less Christian but more Christian (and you, as I, know
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- "Christian is as Christian does"?
-