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- From: mcgrath@cs.uiuc.edu (Robert McGrath)
- Subject: Re: Repost of Truzzi Lecture: How to Handle Scientific "Unorthodoxy"
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- Organization: University of Illinois, Dept of Computer Science
- References: <1992Dec23.003135.20240@netcom.com>
- Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 17:19:19 GMT
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- In article <1992Dec23.003135.20240@netcom.com>, noring@netcom.com (Jon Noring) writes in part:
- |>
- [...]
- |> REFLECTIONS ON THE RECEPTION OF UNCONVENTIONAL CLAIMS IN SCIENCE
- |>
- |> November 29, 1989 Colloquium presented by Marcello Truzzi, Ph.D., Professor
- [...]
- |> Reported by Simona Solovey
-
- [...]
- |> As a sociologist of science I remain outside of the controversies surrounding
- |> unconventional claims in science.
- [...]
- |> There are three broad approaches to anomaly studies. The first approach is
- |> usually called the Fortean approach. It is generally characterized by what
- |> critics would call mystery mongering.
- [...]
- |> The second common approach is what critics usually call the debunkers'
- |> approach. This is the main attitude of the orthodox scientific community
- |> towards anomaly claims. It is characterized by the Committee for the
- |> Scientific Investigation of Claims of the Paranormal (CSICOP). "Whatever is
- |> claimed is nothing but ... something else."
- [...]
-
- Hmm. I am surprised to hear that either of these two approaches qualifies
- as "science"! This, of course is very "balanced" of Truzzi--he stands
- firmly between a straw scylla (sp?) and a straw charibdis (sp?)! Truly
- the only place for any reasonable (straw) philosopher to stand.
-
- I leave a cataloging of the flaws in this kind of argument as an
- exercise for undergraduate rhetoric students.
-
- [...]
- |> I found that the Committee [CSICOP] was much more interested in attacking
- |> the most publicly visible claimants such as the "National Enquirer". The
- |> major interest of the Committee was not inquiry but to serve as an advocacy
- |> body, a public relations group for scientific orthodoxy. The Committee has
- |> made many mistakes. My main objection to the Committee, and the reason I
- |> chose to leave it, was that it was taking the public position that it
- |> represented the scientific community, serving as gatekeepers on maverick
- |> claims, whereas I felt they were simply unqualified to act as judge and jury
- |> when they were simply lawyers.
-
- This is a very legitimate criticism. This is a criticism of
- CSICOPs PR claims (or Truzzis interpretation of them, at least), NOT
- of the validity of the role of debunker, or of the validity of the
- debunking done. Solid debunking of nonsense is essential, and
- an advocate and forum for such plays its role.
-
- --
- Robert E. McGrath
- Urbana Illinois
- mcgrath@cs.uiuc.edu
-