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From: [e-mail] (James J. Lippard)
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Subject: Re: Crucifixion of Jesus?
Summary: where's the Greek?
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Date: 22 Dec 92 19:37:00 GMT
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In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Christopher Biow) writes...
>Okay, here's the Greek, pasted over from Parsons Technology's
>QuickVerse for Windows. I haven't the skill with Greek to see
>all that much copying here. Maybe I don't know what I'm
>doing. Still, these verses would seem not to imply more than a
>common tradition (written or verbal).

I've put together the parallel verses and thrown in English translation
(from the New American Standard translation).  (Thanks for posting
this.)

Mark 2:3 ..erchomai..phero.paralutikos..paralutikos..
airo.tessares
And they came, bringing to him a paralytic, carried by four men.
Mat 9:2 .idou.prosphero....paralutikos..paralutikos ballo
epi.kline.iesous eido.pistis rheo..paralutikos..paralutikos
teleioo...tharseo.hamartia.aphiemi.
And behold, they were bringing to him a paralytic, lying on a bed;
and Jesus seeing their faith said to the paralytic, "Take courage,
My son, your sins are forgiven."
Luke 5:18 .idou aner phero..kline.anthropos
hos....paraluo..zeteo..eisphero....tithemi.enopion.
And behold, some men were carrying on a bed a man who was paralyzed;
and they were trying to bring him in, and to set him down in front
of Him.

Mark 2:4 ...dunamai.proseggizo.....ochlos.apostegazo.stege
hopou......exorusso...chalao chalao.krabbatos epi hos.
paralutikos..paralutikos katakeimai
And being unable to get to Him because of the crowd, they removed
the roof above Him; and when they had dug an opening, they let
down the pallet on which the paralytic was lying.
Luke 5:19 .....heurisko.poios...eisphero..dia..ochlos.
anabaino..doma.kathiemi.kathiemi dia.keramos..klinidion
eis.mesos emprosthen iesous
And not finding any way to bring him in because of the crowd,
they went up on the roof and let him down through the tiles with his
stretcher, right in the center, in front of Jesus.

Mark 2:5 .iesous eido.pistis.lego..paralutikos..paralutikos
teknon.hamartia.aphiemi.
And Jesus seeing their faith said to the paralytic, "My son,
your sins are forgiven."
[See Matthew 9:2, above.]
Luke 5:20 ...eido.pistis.epo..anthropos.hamartia.aphiemi.
And seeing their faith, He said, "Friend, your sins are forgiven
you."

Mark 2:6 ...tis..grammateus kathemai ekei.dialogizomai..kardia
But there were some of the scribes sitting there and reasoning in
their hearts,
Mark 2:7  tis.houtos.houto laleo blasphemia tis dunamai
aphiemi hamartia.theos heis
"Why does this man speak that way?  He is blaspheming; who can forgive
sins but God alone?"
Mat 9:3 .idou tis..grammateus rheo en heautou houtos.blasphemeo
And behold, some of the scribes said to themselves, "This fellow
blasphemes."
Luke 5:21 ..grammateus..pharisaios archomai.dialogizomai
lego tis.houtos hos laleo blasphemia tis dunamai aphiemi
hamartia.theos monos
And the scribes and the Pharisees began to reason, saying, "Who
is this man who speaks blasphemies?  Who can forgive sins, but
God alone?"

Mark 2:8 .eutheos.iesous epiginosko..pneuma..houto
dialogizomaien heautou.epo..tis dialogizomai.tauta..humon
kardia
And immediately Jesus, aware in His spirit that they were reasoning
that way within themselves, said to them, "Why are you reasoning
about these things in your hearts?"
Mat 9:4 .iesous eido.enthumesis rheo hina tis enthumeomai.
poneros.humon kardia
And Jesus knowing their thoughts said, "Why are you thinking evil
in your hearts?"
Luke 5:22 ..iesous epiginosko.dialogismos.apokrinomai epo
..tis dialogizomai..humon kardia
But Jesus, aware of their reasonings, answered and said to them,
"Why are you reasoning in your hearts?"

Mark 2:9  tis..eukopoteros.epo..paralutikos..paralutikos.
hamartia.aphiemi.e.epo egeiro.airo..krabbatos.peripateo
"Which is easier, to say to the paralytic, 'your sins are forgiven';
or to say, 'Arise, and take up your pallet and walk'?"
Mat 9:5 .tis.eukopoteros.epo.hamartia.aphiemi.e.epo egeiro.
peripateo
"For which is easier, to say, 'Your sins are forgiven,' or to say,
'Rise, and walk'?"
Luke 5:23  tis.eukopoteros.epo.hamartia.aphiemi.e.epo
egeiro..peripateo
"Which is easier, to say, 'Your sins have been forgiven you,' or to say,
'Rise and walk'?"

Mark 2:10 ....eido..huios.anthropos echo exousia epi ge.
aphiemi hamartia.lego..paralutikos..paralutikos
"But in order that you may know that the Son of Man has authority on
earth to forgive sins"  He said to the paralytic,
Mark 2:11 .lego..egeiro.airo..krabbatos.hupago..eis sou oikos
"I say to you, rise, take up your pallet and go home."
Mat 9:6 ....eido..huios.anthropos echo exousia epi ge.aphiemi
hamartia tote lego...paralutikos..paralutikos egeiro airo..
kline.hupago.sou oikos
"But in order that you may know that the Son of Man has authority
on earth to forgive sins"  then He said to the paralytic  "Rise,
take up your bed, and go home."
Luke 5:24 ....eido..huios.anthropos echo exousia.ge.aphiemi
hamartia.epo..paralutikos..paraluo.lego..egeiro.airo..
klinidion.poreuomai eis sou oikos
"But in order that you may know that the Son of Man has authority
on earth to forgive sins," He said to the paralytic "I say to you,
rise, and take up your stretcher and go home."

Mark 2:12 .eutheos.egeiro airo..krabbatos.exerchomai
exerchomai enantion.pas hoste...pas existemi.doxazo theos
lego.oudepote eido..houto houtos
And he rose and immediately took up the pallet and went out in
the sight of all; so that they were all amazed and were glorifying
God, saying, "We have never seen anything like this."
Mat 9:7 ..egeiro.aperchomai..oikos
And he rose, and went home.
Mat 9:8 ...ochlos eido..thaumazo.doxazo theos ho.didomi
toioutos exousia.anthropos
But when the multitudes saw this, they were filled with awe,
and glorified God, who had given such authority to men.
Luke 5:25 .parachrema.anistemi.enopion..airo..epi hos.
katakeimai.aperchomai...oikos doxazo theos
And at once he rose up before them, and took up what he had
been lying on, and went home, glorifying God.
Luke 5:26 ...hapas ekstasis lambano..doxazo theos..pletho.
phobos lego..eido paradoxos..semeron
And they were all seized with astonishment and began glorifying
God; and they were filled with fear, saying, "We have seen
remarkable things today."

Jim Lippard              [e-mail]
Dept. of Philosophy      [e-mail]
University of Arizona
Tucson, AZ 85721