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- From: payner@netcom.com (Rich Payne)
- Subject: Re: Hormesis/Homeopathy
- Message-ID: <1992Dec21.160709.4842@netcom.com>
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- References: <1992Dec17.173125.21260@donner.SanDiego.NCR.COM> <1h31d3INNfm0@gap.caltech.edu>
- Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 16:07:09 GMT
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- In article <1h31d3INNfm0@gap.caltech.edu> carl@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU writes:
- >In article <1992Dec17.173125.21260@donner.SanDiego.NCR.COM>, kraus@.SanDiego.NCR.COM (Dave Kraus) writes:
- >=>The basis of homeopathy is to find a substance which, in sufficiently large
- >=>doses, would produce EXACTLY the same symptoms as the disease being treated.
- >=>Now you're saying that the symptoms should be slightly different. You're
- >=>stretching the definition of homeopathy far beyond what is reasonable. At this
- >=>rate, you'll soon include all of non-surgical medicine under the definition.
- >=>Why don't you just give up and admit that you're not talking about homeopathy?
- >=
- >=My assumption here is that two different irritations may not produce "EXACTLY"
- >=the same "response from the body" although the outward symptoms may appear
- >=to be "EXACTLY" the same. I am just pointing out a possibility, not trying
- >=to convince you that this is true. I do this often and I think that you take
- >=it to mean that I actually believe something is true.
- >
- >I see. Glad to hear that you finally admit to being flat-out liar. Thanks for
- >the confession. Perhaps, having now admitted this failing, you can attempt to
- >remedy it. Would that Derek Abbot were so honest.
- >
- >=My dictionary doesn't have this word. What does "hormesis" mean? I would
- >=gladly use it if it would more acurately describe homeopathic-like reactions
- >=at higher dilution strengths.
- >
- >Hormesis is the idea that exposure to a substance at a level that is at the
- >very limit of being able to produce clinical symptoms will tend to enhance
- >the body's defense mechanisms. However, for hormesis, you need a high enough
- >dose that it *DOES* produce clinical symptoms.
-
- Hey, wait a minute. I just recalled reading of enviornmentalist suits
- against major corporations for all sorts of vague ills and sicknesses
- supposedly caused by low levels of contaminants. This was from an issue of
- _Reason_, wonder if I still have it somewhere?
-
- This is in contrast with homeopathy, not hormesis BTW.
-
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- >Carl J Lydick | INTERnet: CARL@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU | NSI/HEPnet: SOL1::CARL
- >
- >Disclaimer: Hey, I understand VAXen and VMS. That's what I get paid for. My
- >understanding of astronomy is purely at the amateur level (or below). So
- >unless what I'm saying is directly related to VAX/VMS, don't hold me or my
- >organization responsible for it. If it IS related to VAX/VMS, you can try to
- >hold me responsible for it, but my organization had nothing to do with it.
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- Rich
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