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- From: terry@asl.dl.nec.com
- Subject: Re: A Good Question
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- Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1992 23:22:06 GMT
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- In article <921231130918.20a05c3e@FNALD.FNAL.GOV>
- DROEGE@fnald.fnal.gov writes:
-
- > Consider two D ions sitting in a tube. The tube is the Palladium lattice.
- > Let them be at adjacent sites in the tube. Now sneak up behind each with
- > some negative charges. Q: How many charges does it take to push the two
- > together? Q: How much work is done in the process? (ev)
-
- Not much. The question is whether a plausible energy-focusing mechanism can
- be postulated.
-
- > Seems to me it does not take either very many ev or charges. I don't think
- > we need anything like 20 Kev, or a high voltage anywhere. We just need a
- > very high, very local electric field.
-
- No. If you calculate the effective voltage of the charges you are postulating,
- you will indeed find them to be very high. (The voltage gradient will also be
- very steep for such a postulated arrangement.)
-
- If you can persuade a great many electrons or ions or atoms or whatever to
- symmetrically contribute their energy to a very small number of ions or atoms,
- you will get some interesting hot spots. The formation of such hot spots
- could certainly be postulated to make use of field emission or some similar
- effect, but something _more_ than just local gradients will definitely be
- needed. The main problem is that such steep local gradients normally have
- access only to a very limited (local) quantitiy of potential energy. You will
- need potential energy contributions from a very wide range of locations in
- your crystal lattice, and that implies something more generalized than the
- local gradients alone can provide.
-
- > Now if all those electrons in the lattice can just be persuaded to bunch up
- > periodically, the internal net field could be very high while the external
- > field is zero.
-
- The "bunching up" is in fact the postulated energy focusing mechanism. The
- problem is to quantify it specifically and propose a way that it might be
- able to exist in a transition metal lattice. Look for mechanisms that _end_
- with strong field gradients, but begin with something more gradual. Otherwise
- your attempt to focus energy will break up prematurely and nothing of any
- great interest will occur.
-
- I have no idea what such an electron-based energy focusing mechanism would be,
- but it would necessarily show a high degree of symmetry when represented in
- the appropriate space. It would also have to "zero in" very specifically on
- a single very tiny region of the lattice for the final focusing of energy.
- (Note again the difference from "fracto" approaches, in which high gradients
- occur all over the matrix and no single focus can be identified.)
-
- > Seems to me that all those electrons in the lattice would want to lock up
- > in some way.
-
- Not normally. You've got the metallic equivalent of an electron gas, and
- unless disciplined in some curious fashion it will behave like most gases --
- chaotically.
-
- > Happy New Year to All - Lets make this a breakthrough year!
-
- It would make a great New Year, wouldn't it? Thanks for all the great
- contributions, Tom, and for the interesting speculations that make one
- stop and think.
-
- Cheers,
- Terry
-
-