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- From: mcirvin@husc8.harvard.edu (Matt McIrvin)
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- Subject: Re: Star Ship Engineering & Time Travel 1
- Message-ID: <mcirvin.725829523@husc.harvard.edu>
- Date: 31 Dec 92 19:18:43 GMT
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- sarfatti@well.sf.ca.us (Jack Sarfatti) writes:
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- >Comments by Sarfatti:
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- >From: mcirvin@husc8.harvard.edu (Matt McIrvin)
- >Subject: Re: Vacuum-Driven Power Exchange in the Free Electron Gas
- >Date: 30 Dec 92 22:23:34 GMT
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- >These days it's usually described in a manner closer to Eugen Raicu's; the
- >virtual particles are artifacts of perturbation theory applied to quantum
- >field theory, whereas uncertainty relations are a fairly fundamental
- >consequence of how the quantum theory is set up.
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- Jack Sarfatti writes:
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- >*"artifacts of perturbation theory" ? The Lamb shift and Casimir force are
- >real effects so I'm not sure what "artifacts" means*
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- The Lamb shift and Casimir force both arise from quantum field
- theory, independently of whether you regard the theory as primarily
- describing the dynamics of virtual particles. The Lamb shift is most
- conveniently calculated using Feynman diagrams, but the Casimir force
- is easier to calculate by canonically quantizing the electromagnetic
- field and looking directly at the field Hamiltonian, since it's there that
- the vacuum energy shows up. In that case you don't even have to think
- about virtual photons.
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