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- From: crb7q@kelvin.seas.Virginia.EDU (Cameron Randale Bass)
- Subject: Re: Physics: The Good, The Bad, and The Bogus
- Message-ID: <1992Dec23.224318.8160@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU>
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- References: <Bzq9Hn.7xx@well.sf.ca.us>
- Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 22:43:18 GMT
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- In article <Bzq9Hn.7xx@well.sf.ca.us> sarfatti@well.sf.ca.us (Jack Sarfatti) writes:
- >
- >"Make my day!" Dirty Harry, Clint Eastwood.
- >
- >Sarfatti replies to:
- >comments between *...*
- >
- >Come to think of it, I remember one or two less than complimentary remarks
- >about one Jack Sarfatti in there...
- >
- >*Maybe so, but at one point referring to my assertion that quantum
- >connection communication is possible, Gardner writes:
- >"I know of no other physicist who thinks it will work. If it does, Sarfatti
- >will become one of the greatest physicists of all time." Indeed, Gardner's
- >colleague Marcello Truzzi writes of me:
- ... [stuff deleted]
-
- In the interests of complete coverage, Martin Gardiner says p. 188
-
- For many paraphysicists the EPR paradox suggests that
- quantum information can be transferred instantaneously (or almost
- so) from any part of the universe to any other, otherwise
- how does one particle 'know' what happens when its twin
- is measured? (relativity theory is not violated because no
- energy is transferred, only information.) This is the view
- of paraphysicist Jack Sarfatti, who heads a small San Francisco
- organization called The Physics/Consciousness Research Group,
- initially financed by Werner Erhard of est. (Sarfatti and Erhard
- have since had a violent falling out, and Sarfatti is devoting
- much of his time to attacking Erhard as a native 'fascist.')
- For Sarfatti's far-out views see his article 'The physical roots
- of consciousness' in Jeffrey Mislove's wild book, _The Roots of
- Consciousness_ (published by Random House in a fit of absence of
- mind), and an interview with Sarfatti in _Oui_, March 1979.
- Last year (1978 I believe, crb) Sarfatti applied for a patent
- (disclosure number 071165) on a device he hopes can send faster-
- than-light messages to any part of the universe.
-
- In the interests of fairness...
-
- >Martin Gardner also wrote:
- >
- >"Sarfatti is a leading theoretician among U.S. paraphysicists ... he began
- >to have 'odd subliminal experiences' ... He found he could practise
- >'automatic writing' ...and several of his published scientific papers ...
- >were written that way ....Think of the world as an immense, intricate
- >puppet show. Everything has a 'string' attached to it, and the strings are
- >all held by the Great Puppeteer ... its infinite strings provide a
- >connectedness that permits the transfer of information at instantaneous
- >speeds through space and time .... There are no instant signals in the
- >sense that energy is transferred... It is Sarfatti's persuasion that the
- >human mind has natural detectors of deBroglie waves on the quantum
- >molecular level. 'The introduction of this kind of direct quantum
- >information into waking consciousness often appears as paranormal ..."
- >excerpted from Martin Gardner's "Magic and Paraphysics" in Science Good Bad
- >and Bogus (1981) before the model now on the WELL and before the book by
- >Barrow and Tipler The Anthropic Cosmological Principle.
-
- He also wrote in response to your press release about Uri Geller
- "Note the clear implication in Sarfatti's release that having his
- doctorate in physics made him specially qualified to rule out
- deception". The whole tone of the article is skeptical, and some
- of the things you have stated above are actually quoted in the
- article as your own words, the rest are portrayed as your
- ideas, not Gardner's. I wouldn't say the article is any kind
- of stunning validation.
-
- dale bass
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- C. R. Bass crb7q@virginia.edu
- Department of Mechanical,
- Aerospace and Nuclear Engineering
- University of Virginia (804) 924-7926
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