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- From: jbaez@riesz.mit.edu (John C. Baez)
- Subject: Re: When your sun forges iron...
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- Date: Mon, 21 Dec 92 19:22:23 GMT
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- In article <1992Dec17.081331.21425@u.washington.edu> lamontg@stein.u.washington.edu (Lamont Granquist) writes:
- >bweiner@ruhets.rutgers.edu (Benjamin Weiner) writes:
- >>kfree@netlink.cts.com (Kenneth Freeman) writes:
- >>>I've often read that iron is the proximate cause of novas, iron
- >>>being the last atomic ash, so to speak. Why iron in particular?
- >>>I'd appreciate a good QM explanation of why your usual stellar
- >>>furnace blows upon trying to produce energy from Fe!
- >>
- >>Iron isotopes are the most tightly bound nuclei. For other nuclei,
- >>e.g. silicon, a star can fuse them with alpha particles or whatever
- >>forming a more tightly bound nucleus and releasing some energy in the
- >>form of radiation - the radiative pressure supports the star against
- >>gravity. Once an iron core forms there is no more support and eventually
- >>the star must collapse. (This is a highly simplified version of events.)
- >>
- >>I guess the short answer to your question is that you can't produce
- >>energy from Fe.
- >
- >In fact what happens is that you get a buildup of Fe-56 in the core. After
- >the pressure gets great enough the Fe-56 begins to start to fission.
- >
- >This is bad.
- >
- >Very bad.
-
- Aw, it ain't so bad. If there were no supernovae where would we get all
- those nice heavy elements? :-) (Extra credit question: could life on
- earth get by if the heaviest element around were iron? Hemoglobin's
- still in, by a hair.)
-
- But don't you mean fusion, not fission? I am no nuclear physicist but
- my hunch would be that at high pressures iron might want to fuse into
- larger nuclei, not break into smaller ones. Is there anyone out there
- who can explain to me which one is right, and more importantly, why?
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