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- From: jbaez@riesz.mit.edu (John C. Baez)
- Subject: Re: Link invariants and gauge theory
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- Date: Mon, 21 Dec 92 10:04:14 GMT
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- In article <1992Dec21.063339.27448@nuscc.nus.sg> matmcinn@nuscc.nus.sg (Brett McInnes) writes:
- >baez@guitar.ucr.edu (john baez) writes:
- >[interesting stuff deleted]:
- >:
- >Can anyone
- > [a] give me an example of a theory that is *not* diffeomorphism
- invariant
-
- Look, Brett, I keep be extra nice just for you, by noting in many posts
- that general covariance of physical theories does NOT mean the same thing as
- diffeomorphism-invariance in your sense! As you noted
- once upon a time, even special relativity is diffeomorphism-invariant in
- the sense that one can pull back all fields including the metric by a
- diffeomorphism and get an equally good world. In fact one could simply
- say special relativity is a special solution of general relativity with
- the gravitational constant set to zero. But special relativity is not
- "generally covariant." If you require me to explain general covariance
- again I will, albeit grumpily.
-
- > [b] explain to me whether "real" physicists "really" care about
- >Chern-Simonsology [meaning: do they actually have a concrete use for it,
- >or is it something that people do while waiting for the next theory of
- >everything to come along?]
-
- There are 3 reasons why people are interested in Chern-Simons theory:
- 1) it is a 3-dimensional theory that has as a "boundary value theory" a
- 2d conformal field theory, the WZW model, which is of interest in string
- theory, 2) it is a generally covariant quantum field theory, or as they
- say these days a topological QFT, for which one can actually work out all the
- details, pleasing A) the physicists because one needs all the practice
- with generally covariant theories one can get, quantum gravity being too
- hard for us so far, and B) the mathematicians because it turns out to be
- related to link invariants (e.g. the Jones polynomial), quantum groups,
- and many other cool things, 3) in the Ashtekar-Rovelli-Smolin approach,
- Chern-Simons theory appears to define a state of 4-dimensional quantum
- gravity - since in some sense Chern-Simons theory is itself a "boundary
- value theory" of 4d quantum gravity. It's this third fact, in my humble
- opinion, that indicates that Chern-Simons theory might really be "honest
- physics" (as I'm not a big fan of string theory). Indeed, Louis Crane
- has written a charming paper called "Categorical Physics" in which he
- claims that the Chern-Simons state of quantum gravity (perhaps with
- gauge group enlarged to include all the other forces) should be taken
- seriously as THE WAVEFUNCTION OF THE UNIVERSE. (Capital letters to
- indicate the danger of sounding like a crackpot when one makes such
- suggestions.) There is much more to say about this, but I will wait and
- sometime try to give a semi-popular exposition of his paper (which is
- not even an official preprint yet). It is, to say the least, ambitious.
- If it were true, Chern-Simons theory would be quite important indeed.
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