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- From: jbaez@riesz.mit.edu (John C. Baez)
- Subject: Re: Baez's latest post on "links".
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- Date: Sun, 20 Dec 92 21:27:57 GMT
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- In article <BzKn2q.41q@well.sf.ca.us> sarfatti@well.sf.ca.us (Jack Sarfatti) writes:
- >
- >Very formidable and I don't pretend to understand it. I'm sure it's good
- >math and good intellectual exercise for those who do it - but is it
- >physics?
-
- It's mathematical physics. That is, it's an attempt to do in a rigorous
- manner what physicists are already busy doing, in order to: 1) see if
- there is really anything to it, 2) explain seemingly ad hoc procedures,
- 3) get pure mathematicians interested in it, and even 4) help out with
- the physics problems.
-
- >It would help if John could give a short exposition of what kinds of physics
- >this work could explain - even in principle - any contact with experiment
- >potentially possible - even in future assuming a really advanced super-
- >technology.
-
- Well, I have never had the energy to give a good exposition of the loop
- variables approach to quantum gravity, but that's what's motivates this
- work. Essentially, the prospect of unifying general relativity and
- quantum theory looked very bleak (apart from the avenue of string
- theory, which ambitiously seeks to unify EVERYTHING) until Ashtekar
- invented his "new variables" for general relativity, and Rovelli and
- Smolin used them and the loop transform to do quantum gravity in a
- nonperturbative manner. This is tremendously exciting to me, both
- because it is an approach to quantum gravity that takes the insights of
- general relativity seriously (respecting general covariance at every
- step, rather than perturbing from a flat metric), and because it takes
- advantage of the new breakthroughs in knot theory. Previous approaches to
- nonperturbative quantum gravity suffered from severe ailments: the
- Feynman integral approach gave integrals over the space of all metrics
- that seemed if anything more meaningless than the usual path integrals,
- while the canonical quantization approach was stuck on trying to find
- solutions to the Hamiltonian constraint. The loop variables approach
- seems like it might avoid these problems - but there are still plenty of
- things that could go wrong, and the need for hardnosed mathematicians to
- see if what's been done so far is solid.
-
-
-
- To learn about loop variables, it's best to read Recent Developments in
- Non-Perturbative Quantum Gravity, by Lee Smolin, which is number 9202022
- in hep-th. To learn why real physicists are interested in holonomy
- algebras, try Representations of the holonomy algebras of gravity and
- non-Abelian gauge theories, by Abhay Ashtekar and C.J. Isham, which is
- 9202053.
-
-
-
- >Of course, it is much better to have Baez's stuff here than
- >Abian's etc.
-
- Your damn praise makes me feel faint. :-)
-