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- From: holmes@opal.idbsu.edu (Randall Holmes)
- Subject: Re: A note on Modal Logic that has nothing to do with Icky Sex
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- Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 23:46:13 GMT
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- It should be made clear that the identity of the One True Set Theory
- is not the issue in the argument about "quantification over
- everything". Zeleny's position makes no sense from the standpoint of
- the very Cantorian set theory he professes to regard as the Truth (and
- which I agree is an accurate description of part of the whole).
-
- When we quantify, we do not quantify over a set. The statement "for
- all x, P" means that P is true no matter what x is (there may be
- implicit restrictions in given disciplines; in ZFC we are, for
- example, talking only about well-founded sets -- but note that
- well-founded sets do NOT make up a set), not "P is true whenever x is
- taken from a certain collection". Moreover, unrestricted quantifiers
- can occur in conditions which "define" sets in ZFC; if we restrict
- ourselves to defining sets using conditions with quantifiers
- restricted to sets, we cannot prove the existence of aleph-omega (we
- are essentially working in type theory).
-
- As Zeleny has said himself, there is no completed totality of all the
- sets of ZFC; this is an Absolute Infinite totality, in Cantor's sense.
- How does he square this with his insistence that there must be such a
- totality (in a a higher type, apparently) to quantify over? This
- seems to arise from his belief that ZFC "has semantics" in the sense
- that the intended interpretation of ZFC is a model of ZFC. But a
- model of theory T is a _set_; the intended interpretation of ZFC
- describes an Absolute Infinite totality which cannot be construed as a
- set!
-
- If we admit his classes, super-classes, and so forth, he is doing
- omega-order ZFC. He has not gained anything by this regress; I'm
- looking for his model of omega-order ZFC...
-
-
-
- --
- The opinions expressed | --Sincerely,
- above are not the "official" | M. Randall Holmes
- opinions of any person | Math. Dept., Boise State Univ.
- or institution. | holmes@opal.idbsu.edu
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