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- From: tsf@CS.CMU.EDU (Timothy Freeman)
- Newsgroups: sci.nanotech
- Subject: Re: Some questions re "Nanosystems".
- Message-ID: <Dec.22.15.34.19.1992.18261@planchet.rutgers.edu>
- Date: 22 Dec 92 20:34:20 GMT
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- In article <Dec.17.20.24.12.1992.25394@planchet.rutgers.edu> merkle@parc.xerox.com (Ralph Merkle) writes:
-
- > Topic 6: Nanosystems - New Drexler Book - Critique
- > By: Hudson Hayes Luce (hluce) on Sun, Nov 15, '92
- > Describe a high-vacuum/solvent interface.
-
- This is illustrated on page 374, figure 13.1. There is a diamondoid wall
- between the liquid external environment and the high-vacuum internal
- environment. Figure 13.4 illustrates a multi-staged cascade which will
- produce an output with a contaminant fraction of less than 10^-15.
-
- This looks like a near miss to me. In fig 13.1 the output of sorted
- molecules are pictured floating down a tube in a fairly random way.
- This means that either the sorted molecules are dissolved in a solvent
- or the sorted molecules themselves form either a liquid or a gas; in
- either case, there is no vacuum on the rhs of the figure.
-
- Fortunately, Figure 13.5 on page 384 shows a scheme that puts the
- sorted molecules on a conveyor belt, which seems like a plausible way
- to do it in a vacuum. If there's a vacuum on the rhs of the figure,
- then one of the following must be true:
-
- 1. There is no solvent in the stream entering the lhs of the
- figure. This means that the molecule we're interested in must form a
- liquid or gas at whatever temperature we're working at.
- 2. We can design the rotating parts to fit closely enough to ensure
- that essentially none of the solvent leaks from the lhs of the
- figure to the rhs.
-
- Both of these seem plausible to me. Given that Drexler referred to
- hydrostatic pressure page 384, it seems doubtful that I'm giving his
- diagram the meaning he intended.
-
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-
- [It would seem silly to build the concentrator as shown and throw
- away the negentropy it gains by allowing the sorted molecules to float
- ramdomly off to the right--taking them off on a conveyor belt seems a
- much better way to do it.
- --JoSH]
-