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- From: altar@beaufort.sfu.ca (Ted Wayn Altar)
- Subject: Re: Prof. Moon et al. on "vitamin" D
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- Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
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- Date: Sat, 2 Jan 1993 06:46:50 GMT
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- Rich Young wildly concludes:
-
- [...]
- > I think, based on this and the recollection of Mr. Craig Silver who
- > claims to have attended some of Moon's lectures and listened to taped
- > copies of others, that we can safely say that Mr. Altar has most
- > egregiously misrepresented Dr. Moon in his zeal to present some
- > supporting evidence for his dietary lifestyle. I suggest we keep
- > his sorry intellectual chicanery in mind when next we see some
- > quasi-erudite oration from his keyboard in s.m.n. Such ludicrous
- > literary legerdemain has no place in a forum where people seek facts.
-
- My goodness, what is this, a forum for character assassinations? :-(
-
- Frankly, Rich, you really are *here* being silly. Again, as I
- have already said, my posting was simply a SUMMARY of some of the
- interesting points from Dr. Moon's forthcoming paper (which is now
- published) PLUS two presentations he made at the university.
- Also, I've talked to Dr. Moon and also read a news brief of his
- position as published in the November 16, 1989 issue of SIMON
- FRASER WEEK (see below for some quotes).
-
- Again, as previously mentioned, I have a copy of the lecture
- outline which Dr. Moon used and which he has kindly provided to
- me. In it he has written, and this was cited earlier by me:
-
- "'Vitamin D' is an ANABOLIC SECO-STEROID HORMONE (or more
- appropriately, a group of hormones). The family name of
- these hormones is "CALICIFEROL", due to their calcium-
- controlling functions" (emphasis his)
-
- Once again, my posting did not purport to ONLY be a precise of
- his forthcoming paper, but rather to be a summary report of what
- Dr. Moon has said in a number of places about "vitamin D".
- Is this not what a good reporter should try to do? Namely,
- use more than one source of information and talk directly to the
- parties concerned. I also have some e-mail exchanges with Dr.
- Moon where again he confirms what I have reported. And yes, I
- have also sent him copy of my summary posting that you falsely
- charge misrepresents his position. I'm afraid that it is you
- yourself who has "egregiously misrepresented" someone, to use
- your words.
-
- Oh yes, please don't hesitate Rich to apologize for your
- misrepresentation and insults ;-) Yes, this last sentence is m
- meant in good fun and playful irony. Look, I don't take this all t
- that seriously nor should you, so lighten up and maybe the
- greater truth can emerge if we all try to be a little more
- civil and even friendly about it all. Again, there really is no
- need to be so insulting and stiff. After all, we are all lay
- persons here, each of us trying to understand as best we can.
-
- Ted
-
-
- NOTES:
- In that 1 page brief published in the November 16, 1989 issue
- of SIMON FRASER WEEK, Dr. Moon is quoted as saying:
- ,
- "none of the known steroid hormones are safe to use over
- prolonged periods, and except for calciferol, all are restricted
- to use by prescription only"
-
- and "Vitamin D, or calicferol, is one of the most
- potent steroid hormones available and a very
- toxic food additive"
-
- and "most people don't realized that it is a vitamin at all"
-
- and "This is one hormone people should avoid consuming unless
- there is a clear medical reason for its use. Infants under
- the age of two who are not exposed to the ultraviolet rays
- and of the sun, lactating women who do not get sufficient
- exposure to solar ultraviolet or people who are confined
- indoors, such as elderly invalids, may need calciferol
- replacement therapy, but they are a minority of the
- population"
-
- and "Vitamin D was classified as a steroid hormone in 1970, but
- this knowledge is disseminated slowly. The full implications
- of this discovery are still not well-understood, even by those
- scientists who specialize in studying vitamin D"
-
- and "For those who need it, the hormone is a powerful therapeutic
- agent, but for those who do not, it has no beneficial effect
- but many well-documented detrimental effects"
-
- and "there is no evidence that any group of people who get
- sufficient sunshine -- and that includes the vast majority
- of all humans -- ever needs to consume this hormone"
-
-