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- From: young@clpd.kodak.com (Rich Young)
- Subject: Re: Calcium/Magnesium
- Message-ID: <1992Dec31.215724.11061@pixel.kodak.com>
- Originator: young@sasquatch
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- Reply-To: young@clpd.kodak.com
- Organization: Clinical Diagnostics Division, Eastman Kodak Company
- References: <1992Dec30.225515.21708@pixel.kodak.com> <C03sFt.K16@wpg.com>
- Date: Thu, 31 Dec 92 21:57:24 GMT
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- In article <C03sFt.K16@wpg.com> russ@wpg.com (Russell Lawrence) writes:
- >In article <C01zGx.AL6@wpg.com> russ@wpg.com (Russell Lawrence) writes:
- >rl> Would you mind explaining how/why credentials can ever be used to
- >rl> reasonably test the truth or falsity of a statement concerning
- >rl> human nutrition? On the whole, you seem to be saying that
- >rl> credentials are admissible when you say they are, and they're not
- >rl> admissible when you say they're not. Please tell us the guidelines
- >rl> that you use for making the distinction.
- >
- >From article <1992Dec30.225515.21708@pixel.kodak.com>, by young@clpd.kodak.com (Rich Young):
- >ry> As quoted by Ted Wayn Altar:
- >
- >====================================================================
- >> Agumentum ad verecundiam (appeal to authority) . . . This
- >> method of argument is not always strictly fallacious, for the
- >> reference to an admitted authority in the special field of
- >> his competence may carry great weight and constitute relevant
- >> evidence. If laymen are disputing over some question of
- >> physical science and one appeals to the testimony of Einstein
- >> on the matter, that testimony is very relevant. Although it
- >> does not prove the point, it certainly tends to support it.
- >> (from Irving Copi, INTRODUCTION TO LOGIC, 3r ed., p. 66-67)
- >====================================================================
- >
- >Re-read the last sentence very carefully. What does the author
- >mean by the phrase:
- >
- > "ALTHOUGH IT DOES NOT PROVE THE POINT, ..."
-
- You forgot to include, "...IT CERTAINLY TENDS TO SUPPORT IT."
-
- I have had no personal contact with Mr. Copi, but I assume that he
- means just what he said: that credentials alone do not prove a point.
- I assume he also meant what he said when he wrote:
-
- "...the reference to an admitted authority in the special field
- of his competence may carry great weight and constitute relevant
- evidence."
-
- Credentials cannot prove a point, but they can lend credibility to
- an opinion. Without credentials, said opinion carries no more weight
- than yours or mine. I suggest that YOU re-read the entire passage
- carefully.
-
-
- -Rich Young (These are not Kodak's opinions.)
-