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- From: wayman@lamar.ColoState.EDU (Jeffrey Wayman)
- Subject: Re: Math ( and other ) education.
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- Date: Sat, 02 Jan 1993 05:22:19 GMT
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- In article <4932@execu.execu.com> dont@execu.execu.com (Don Thompson) writes:
- >
- > Hello,
- >
- > Regarding the recent thread discussing the state of mathematical
- > education in the U.S.
- >
- > I decided about a month ago to try to salvage the wreckage of my
- > math education after realizing that the things I wanted to do
- > require more than + - / and *. Some of the math I need to
- > to learn is the higher levels of Trig, Calc, and Geometry.
- >
- > Now I live in Austin, Texas. We have at least four public or private
- > universities within driving distance and an extensive Community college
- > system. I work full time and my company is willing to foot the bill of
- > any higher education including Masters and PhDs.
- >
- > "Great, I have a B.S. I'll just enroll in a few night classes, or
- > maybe even get into a Masters program". Well, It would work for the
- > community college, except that their math classes stop at "intro
- > to trig". "Try the University", I thought. Crash and Burn. My
- > SAT-GREP-XYZ-ZZTOP-YOUR-TEST-GOES-HERE scores are not in the top
- > .00025% of the nation, I don't have a 4.2 grade average, and besides
-
- Are the schools that selective? You might do some good taking some test
- a few times and get an outstanding score. Tests like the ACT & GRE get a lot
- easier after a try or two; many schools will take your highest score.
-
- > there are no night classes for the "serious" subjects. You want to
- > learn that stuff? Quit your job, move into the student slums, and
- > repeat all your general ed. THEN you can learn the math.
- >
- > So, here I am. A productive member of society. I pay taxes, I vote,
- > I'm willing to give up my evenings with my family, to study hard,
- > to PAY, and what do I get? "Sorry, you not good enough. Return to
- > Go and pay $200". All because those pin heads did'nt have a slot that
- > I fit into.
- >
- > I always thought that education was a continuing process. It seems
- > that the educational establishment disagrees. The only thing that
- > people want to learn after they get their degree is dBase or MSWord
- > and other "fun" classes. Unless of course you completely trash your
- > life and start over again.
- >
- > Any suggestions?
- >
- Not really a suggestion, but a point you might be able to turn into some
- action: Having taught a few "continuing education" type classes, I get
- the idea that they will offer just about anything if enough people want
- to take it (translated: a money maker). Profs aren't hard to find. If
- there are more folks like you that want to take these classes, get them
- to call the school and let the school know. If there aren't more folks
- like you, then you may want to look into commuting because the school
- can't afford to pay a teacher for an unpopulated class.
-
- Good luck!!
-
- Jeff wayman@lamar.colostate.edu
-