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- From: hrubin@pop.stat.purdue.edu (Herman Rubin)
- Subject: Re: Education crisis (was RE: how much math...)
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- Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 13:52:48 GMT
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- In article <1hr5fjINN972@mirror.digex.com> kfl@access.digex.com (Keith F. Lynch) writes:
- >In article <PRENER.92Dec12015805@prener.watson.ibm.com> prener@watson.ibm.com (Dan Prener) writes:
- >> Little kids learn much faster. ...
- >> But the fact that little kids' learning capacity is so much greater
- >> than that of older people ...
-
- >Is there any evidence for this? It goes against my experience.
-
- There is evidence on both sides of this. It was claimed that children
- can learn a language must faster than adults. It does seem the case
- that adults rarely learn to pronounce the way children learn, and there
- is some evidence, including brain activity evidence, that children
- acquire grammar at least differently than adults. On the other hand,
- an adult taking a strongly grammar-based foreign language course will
- get a considerably larger vocabulary in one year than the vocabulary
- of an eight-year-old. But much of this may come from the type of
- analysis which the adult can make due to experience, but the child
- cannot. It is also possible that the current teaching methods, which
- concentrate on memorizing definitions, contributes to not thinking in
- the new language.
-
- For mathematical concepts, we do have the observation that the current
- teachers cannot learn what the children can learn. My own opinion, based
- on observations of students from sophomores to PhD students, is that the
- learning of methods, excessive formalism, and special cases interferes
- with the learning of concepts. Again, memorizing the definitions, and
- even memorizing proofs, does not teach the concepts; they are learned
- only when they can be used in new situations. I believe that children
- in the early grades, even first grade, can learn the use of variables
- and the structure of the integers. Success at teaching this seems to
- deteriorate rapidly, although there may be adverse selection after the
- high school algebra course.
-
- Both in languages, including computer languages, and in mathematics,
- understanding the structure can facilitate learning the details, and
- acquiring proficiency in their use. I am not convinced that going the
- other way is even that common, although it is essential for good original
- research.
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- Herman Rubin, Dept. of Statistics, Purdue Univ., West Lafayette IN47907-1399
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