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- From: frandag@math.ksu.edu (Francis Fung)
- Newsgroups: sci.math
- Subject: Re: Mathmatics
- Date: 23 Dec 1992 01:21:35 -0600
- Organization: Dept. of Mathematics, Kansas State University
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- jasonp@bungie.prime.com (Jason Pascucci) writes:
-
- >Hi,
-
- >Yes, this might be a strange request, however please
- >indulge me.
-
- >I would like to obtain the firm grasp of 'higher-math'
- >without spending time in school for a Doctorate in Mathmatics.
-
- >I would like suggestions and commentary as to a fairly
- >straightforward, and (as much as possible) all-encompassing
- >'coursework' for an individual, starting, basically,
- >from Calculus (which I have a fair grasp of, but
- >some review I expect will help), and going through
- >the same topics as would a (for example) Doctorate of
- >Mathmatics, without the 'overhead'.
-
- >I'm looking for easily obtainable books and papers, 'standard'
- >college textbooks only as a last resort, unless they are
- >exceptionally well written.
-
- >Mostly, I'm looking for direction, I guess. I would like to
- >expand my knowledge base, and don't have the patience to
- >go through a degree program. I would also like to work at my
- >own pace, which is why I'm interested predomenantly in books.
- >My learning curve is fairly strong, with high comprehension
- >from reasonable reading speeds and minimal need for repetition
- >to leave an impression of an idea. It helps if there
- >is a good background with material...such as the thought-process
- >which lead to it's discovery and subsequent development...
- >as opposed to the 'it works this way, memorize it' method.
- >(Admittedly, it's quite possible that there is nothing out
- >there which uses this learning curve...but it would be nice.
- >I also realize that there is a lot of 'it works this way, memorize
- >it' involved in mathmatics, but a good presentation might seek
- >to soften this...)
-
-
-
- Well, I'm glad you're wanting to embark upon some studying.
- The first thing, though, is that a Ph. D. usually requires
- a focus of some sort. Without some sort of focus, you could
- study forever and still not be in a position to research
- anything. But you can attain a decent level of competence
- that if and when something strikes your fancy, you will be
- able to get yourself up to speed; I guess that actually
- doing this once is what is involved in the "post-Masters"
- part of the Ph. D.
- The other question I have is why you stated an aversion to
- college textbooks. After all, in an ideal world colleges
- would use the texts which would get you prepared for a
- Doctorate. However, it is true that many such books are
- mediocre.
- In any case, you want to learn stuff, and you want
- motivated, hopefully "genetic" (in the sense that it
- teaches you how to think about the material) material.
- Let me think. You have Calculus, which is good.
- The major areas of knowledge which you will want
- to gain understanding in are Algebra, Analysis, and Topology.
- Actually, to see calculus done right, look at Spivak's
- "Calculus" which is awesome, fun to read, and in the
- back has a lot of hints for further reading, some of which
- are still quite relevant after 25 years.
- First, Analysis. It will be Calculus done right, basically.
- A good book to learn things Rudin's "Principles of Mathematical
- Analysis". It is not a cakewalk, and you may want to supplement
- it with something else, like maybe Ross' "Elementary Analysis",
- but I am budget-busting here. Then you will want to learn some
- multivariate calculus, say Spivak's "Calculus on Manifolds".
- At this point, you will want to learn some complex analysis,
- which is amply done out in Conway's "Functions of One Complex
- Variable" or Ahlfors "Complex Analysis". Another nice book set,
- not quite complete but very pleasant, is Knopp's "Theory of
- Functions" series from Dover.
- Oh yes; before I go on I should mention Dover, if you don't already
- know. They are a mainly reprint publisher, and have a lot
- of good, cheap, textbooks. If you are on a budget crunch, you
- can get up to speed on almost all the subjects I have or will discuss
- in this letter from Dover at a decent price (6 to 10 dollars a book).
- They are definitely good as ancillary texts, to go look up something
- that you didn't understand somewhere else.
- You will likely also want to learn some measure theory. A good place
- to learn this is Cohn's "Measure Theory", or Rudin's "Real and Complex
- Analysis", though the latter requires a lot of thought and is not
- genetic to any great degree. Also there are references in the books
- above.
- Ok, on to Algebra. This is a big subject, and has all sorts of
- neat nooks and crannies. You will probably want to learn some elementary
- number theory in order to get started. There are lots of books here,
- Niven and Zuckerman (and Montgomery) "An Intro. to the Theory of Numbers"
- being a nice, though quite packed, text. Another nice one is Davenport's
- "The Highe Arithmetic", a Dover book, and another Dover one by Beiler called
- "Recreations in the Theory of Numbers" which is very elementary but fun
- reading.
- Then on to algebra proper, which is usually ordered Groups, Rings, Fields,
- Modules, or something like that. With some experience in number theory
- it will be fairly easy to get a feel for the abstractions involved in
- those topics above. One way to start would be with an introductory text
- like, say, Clark's "Elements of Abstract Algebra" (a Dover book) or Herstein's
- "Abstract Algebra". Then you would move up to a graduate text, like
- Hungerford's "Algebra" or Grove's "Algebra" or Jacobson's "Algebra", the last
- of which is probably the most detailed (in the sense that every detail is
- spelled out, which is nice the first time through but can obscure the essence
- at times; each, however, leaves out something which you probably should know.
- This will probably take care of you in the algebra department unless you find
- something that strikes your fancy, at which point you can start looking for
- some other references.
- You probably will want to learn a little more number theory too, but that
- can come later.
- The other major thing is that you probably want to learn some linear algebra
- from the easy point of view, before tackling it from the "modules over a PID"
- point of view that the books above will do. A nice, easy book to read is
- Smith's "Linear Algebra", and a classic of exposition is Halmos' "Finite
- Dimensional Vector Spaces".
- Then there is Topology. You will probably want to know some point-set topology
- to get started; some is covered in the analysis books. For more, there is
- Munkres' "Topology" and an assortment of Dover books. Be warned that no
- topology book is perfect, and a lot of them are pretty mediocre.
- Then you will probably want to learn some differential geometry, manifolds,
- etc. A good thing to look at is Spivak's "Comprehensive Intro. to Diff. Geom"
- which is huge but nice. A shorter thing, with which I have little experience,
- is Warner's "Intro. To Diff. Manifolds and Lie Groups". For more
- classical material, which is good to be a little acquainted with, there
- is O'Neill's book, whose exact title I forget but is something like "An Intro.
- to Diff. Geom.", and also Struik's "Intro. to Classical Diff. Geom.".
- Then there is algebraic topology, which is really nice stuff. Good references
- are not easy to find because the material is technical, though the idea is
- not so hard usually. Greenberg and Harper's "A First Course in Alg. Top." is
- decent, and Massey's "Alg. Top.: an Intro." and its revision, "A Basic Course
- in Alg. Top." are also very nice.
- Come to think of it, Henle's "A Combinatorial Introduction to Topology"
- struck me as a decent book when I looked at it, and was fun.
-
- I'm sure I have been quite "traditional" and if I thought about it I could
- think of more non-traditional but educational books like Bruce and Giblin's
- "Curves and Singularities" of stuff like Arnold's "Ordinary Differential
- Equations", but that's more specific stuff I guess.
- I think I have covered the ground of a decent program up to about a Master's
- level. Above that, it becomes a matter of what you want to do. That will
- dictate your choice of texts and papers to read. Usually an advisor with
- knowledge of the literature becomes very, very helpful at this point.
-
- By the way, all of the above is very IMHO, but opinions on books are always
- welcome; it's one of my favorite topics! Hope this helps!
- Francis Fung
-