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- From: shi6@quads.uchicago.edu (Sheldon Shi)
- Newsgroups: sci.fractals
- Subject: Re: Fractal Universe
- Message-ID: <1992Dec24.164849.24641@midway.uchicago.edu>
- Date: 24 Dec 92 16:48:49 GMT
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- In article <israel.725098854@unixg.ubc.ca> israel@unixg.ubc.ca (Robert B. Israel) writes:
- >In <hassink.725064011@manning> hassink@cs.UAlberta.CA (Hassink Brian John) writes:
- >>Well, the earth would have to be equidistant from the sun and other nearby
- >>stars for this to be true. And if this were the case, all sorts of frightful
- >>things would happen to us :)
- >
- Even if the nearby stars are more distant from us than the Sun, the night
- sky should still be as bright as nearby stars, as long as the universe is
- uniform and static, and infinite. The reason for not being so
- is of course due to the expansion of the universe and its finiteness
- and due to that the universe we see might be fractal.
- The expansion red-shifts all light so
- they appear dimmer than they should be. The fractal struture (of
- dimension 1.2) means there are less stars and galaxies when further away.
- Current observations only suggest a fractal up to 100 Mpc.
- Therefore the universe is still homogeneous beyond this scale.
-
- >Actually, everything (including the surface of the sun) should be a lot
- >brighter. Imagine that the universe was static (not expanding) and homogeneous
- >on a scale of, say, 10^7 light years. Then there should be no net flux of
- >light through a flat surface of this size. Take six such surfaces forming
- >a box. Result: no net flux of light out of the box. What happens to light
- >emitted by stars inside the box? Well, it wanders around until it gets
-
- The absorption length of star light totally depends on what the intestellar
- medium is. It can be larger than 10^7 ly. It is an interesting toy model
- of the universe though.
- >absorbed. Anything that's absorbing more energy than it's emitting will heat
- >up until it's at the same temperature as the ambient light (except for black
- >holes). Eventually (and it wouldn't take very long on a cosmic scale, I
- >think) there won't be anything left that's cool enough to absorb more than
- >it emits. It'll all be more or less at the same temperature as the
- >radiation, which will just continue to heat up as the stars pump out energy.
- >After a while the stars themselves heat up until they explode or run out
- >of nuclear fuel.
- >
- >The point is, there has to be _someplace_ to get rid of all this energy the
- >stars are putting out. The usual explanation is that the expansion of the
- >universe is creating more space to put it in. Another possibility is that
- >the universe, with a fractal structure, could have a global matter density
- >of 0.
- >--
- >Robert Israel israel@math.ubc.ca
- >Department of Mathematics or israel@unixg.ubc.ca
- >University of British Columbia
- >Vancouver, BC, Canada V6T 1Y4
-
- Sheldon Shi, AAC, University of Chicago
-