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- From: jhurst@amb4.ccalmr.ogi.edu (James Hurst)
- Newsgroups: sci.environment
- Subject: Re: Who ignores science?
- Summary: Very rarely are things in black and white, so often shades of gray...
- Keywords: Stop the Orygun Chainsaw Massacre, etc, etc.
- Message-ID: <47821@ogicse.ogi.edu>
- Date: 31 Dec 92 00:24:06 GMT
- Article-I.D.: ogicse.47821
- References: <1992Dec29.173620.28293@vexcel.com> <JMC.92Dec29101327@SAIL.Stanford.EDU>
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- In article <JMC.92Dec29101327@SAIL.Stanford.EDU> jmc@cs.Stanford.EDU writes:
- >Dingo writes:
- >
- > WASHINGTON - U.S. Forest Service officials are suppressing a
- > report they had requested of their own wildfile biologists
- > on the Tongass National Forest in Alaska in order to allow
- > timber companies to continue logging the largest and oldest
- > trees.
-
- For background, the Tongass is the largest and one of the most remote of
- our national forests, covering much of the southeast panhandle of Alaska.
- It's actually pretty temperate, moderated by the Japanese current. It
- has a lot of big Sitka spruce, and similar soggy type trees. Most of the
- cut goes to two large mills, which have sweetheart deals pushed through by
- Senator Ted Stevens a decade ago to supply low cost logs and plenty of
- them. As I recall, this deal represented a $50 million subsidy per year
- to the Alaskan timber industry (which, btw, gainfully employs a few friends
- of mine).
-
- > The report, obtained through the Freedom of Information Act,
- > concluded that unless logging operations are scaled back by
- > nearly a fourth, several species of animal, including
- > goshawks, owls, brown bears and wolves, are at risk of
- > disappearing from large parts of the forest.
-
- Interesting. What is a sustainable level for the Tongass has been hotly
- debated in recent years. FOIA requests aren't that common, they tend to
- happen under bureaucratic combat conditions, or around nosy reporters.
-
- > All are found
- > nowhere else in the world.
-
- This is simply incorrect. Subspecies doesn't cut it either. Perhaps they
- mean populations. More likely, IMHO, they're just wrong.
-
-
- > The biologists, who have worked for the last two years to
- > document the wildlife species that need mature, old-growth
- > forests to survive, say they have been given poor performance
- > reviews, directed to water down their findings and told not
- > to release their report.
-
- This has happened quite often within the Forest Service within recent years.
-
- >One possibility is that the report is good science being ignored by
- >the administration for the benefit of its friends in the lumber
- >industry.
-
- Certainly one that must be considered, particularly in light of the quite
- substantial body of congressional reports and GAO findsing to this effect.
-
-
- >The other possibility is that the report is biased by the fact that
- >most Government employees are quite a ways to the left of any
- >Republican administration.
-
- Rather narrow minded of you to deem that there are only two possibilities
- here, don't you think, John? In my limited experience, there is probably
- some truth to both, though there is certainly a pattern that lends credence
- to the side of the biologists.
-
- This press snippet presents a minor skirmish of a long running struggle over
- the heart and soul of the USDA Forest Service. Conceived by Gifford Pinchot
- and given shape by Teddy Roosevelt, the Forest Service manages ~193 million
- acres of public forests. There are lots of statues governing the management
- of these forests, including the Clean Water Act, the National Forest Management
- Act, the NEPA, and the Multiple Use and Sustained Yield Act. These laws,
- appear to have been deliberately and systematically broken under pressure from
- political appointees over the last decade.
-
- The Forest Service is a divided agency. Many of the old guard within the
- agency believe that the mission of the agency is to provide a steady supply
- of low cost lumber to local mills. These are the timber sale planners and
- the road engineers, by and large. The other camp sees the mission to be the
- care and protection of the public lands entrusted to the agency. These are
- the biologists, hydrologists, soil scientists, and ecologists, by and large .
-
- The two sides are at war. The ologists see the old guard as timber primacists,
- willing to destroy their forests for the benefit of local industry. The old
- guard sees them as unpatriotic preservationists. One of the lessons the
- ologists seem to have learned is that to succeed as dissidents within the
- agency, they must do good science.
-
- In a war, both sides often do things difficult to justify. Perhaps this
- happened here, as John implies. But there is certainly a well documented,
- long legacy of abuse, subsidy, and environmental destruction on the Tongass.
-
- Cheers,
-
- Jim
-