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- From: mfriedma@uucp (Michael Friedman)
- Subject: Re: Idiotic Japan Bashing
- Message-ID: <1992Dec30.021837.17665@oracle.us.oracle.com>
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- References: <1992Dec28.170740.17094@oracle.us.oracle.com> <725628015snx@tillage.DIALix.oz.au>
- Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 02:18:37 GMT
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- In article <725628015snx@tillage.DIALix.oz.au> gil@tillage.DIALix.oz.au (Gil Hardwick) writes:
-
- >In article <1992Dec28.170740.17094@oracle.us.oracle.com> mfriedma@uucp writes:
-
- > > The one for my department identifies one key technology and 3 key
- > > markets that we should become leaders in. I have target dates for
- > > beginning development of our flagship products for each and target
- > > dates for beginning sales in the US/Canada, the rest of the First
- > > World, the NICs, and the Third World. I have also identified the
- > > market segments which we can expect to sell into most easily and the
- > > companies which I think are most likely to compete with us. Despite
- > > its vagueness it is the most confidential document I have produced
- > > while at Oracle.
-
- >Perhaps we should send you to Hong Kong for ten years or so, to learn
- >about doing business. There you will learn how patiently to build up
- >relationships, such that anytime you come up with a product they will
- >buy from you anyway. Because they know you, and how you can be trusted
- >to look after them during whatever transactions take place.
-
- Bullshit. For example, no matter how good a relationship we have with
- our educational customers, they are not going to buy our MRP products
- - they don't manufacture so they don't need MRP.
-
- > > The one for my career identifies three strategic products that I can
- > > position myself to build while at Oracle. Each succeeding one is
- > > larger than the last. Each will leverage sales of other Oracle
- > > products. Two of them will allow Oracle to enter new markets that we
- > > are not currently a player in using our existing products as a base,
- > > both to build the technology and to provide a receptive audience.
-
- >Well, in Hong Kong they will probably also teach you not to be so
- >self-interested, to sit their pulling levers. They will want to know
- >more about your eldest son, what education he is receiving, and what
- >position he will take up with what enterprise when, and the extent to
- >which he during his lifetime will act to fulfil your own incompleted
- >life's work. That will require a plan from you of 50-60 years, and
- >people will be watching how you are settling down to fulfilling it.
-
- Well, my eldest son is not yet born so I think that kind of premature.
- Also, I do not intend to plan my childrens' lives for them.
-
- > > Those are effective long term plans. I think your own description of
- > > a 100 year plan shows just how ludicrous a 100 year plan would have to
- > > be.
-
- >Effective in the short term, perhaps. But who cares about the short
- >term when you must work to position your generations to benefit from
- >the long term?
-
- Great. So tell us what belongs in a long term plan, Gil, or admit
- that you're blowing hot air.
-
- >How will all your grandchildren, and their children and their children
- >after them fare long after you are dead and gone? Doesn't that concern
- >you at all? Don't you leave something for them, that they will honour
- >you for your longsightedness, generosity and wisdom?
-
- I plan to leave them plenty of money. They can use it as they see
- fit.
-
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