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- From: mjvande@pbhye.PacBell.COM (Mike Vandeman)
- Subject: Re: Sacrifice (was Re: Save the Planet ...)
- Reply-To: mjvande@PacBell.COM (Mike Vandeman)
- Organization: Pacific * Bell, San Ramon, CA
- Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 00:47:47 GMT
- Message-ID: <1992Dec30.004747.13379@pbhye.PacBell.COM>
- References: <1992Dec28.231813.4931@vexcel.com> <725629772snx@tillage.DIALix.oz.au>
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- >My focus as an ethnologist, as you might well have picked up by now,
- >is *not* toward one social group somehow "qualified" or empowered to
- >solve problems for other social groups, while remaining insulated
- >from the risks those solutions might entail. The model is very much
- >concerned with communities themselves taking back ownership of their
- >own problems, that those who bear the brunt make the decisions; that
- >is, those who will suffer most from the solution have the greatest say
- >in whether it should be implemented.
- >
- >Of course there is a role for scientific and all other expertise in
- >such a model, although as part of the community itself engaged in a
- >direct discourse on reality with people who live in it, rather than
- >cloistered in academe or as agents of government imposing legalised
- >abstractions of reality on people, especially where those people have
- >no right of protest at the effects.
- >
- >Big problems are solved in small local increments by real people with
- >their sleeves rolled up, *not* by the latest Presidential New Deal, or
- >by "environmental friendly" officials in the White House.
- >
- >People don't have to sacrifice anything, just get on with it and
- >*benefit*, for the same reasons you wipe your arse whenever you go
- >to the toilet, or wash the dishes, or do the household chores. It is
- >just *housekeeping*, fundamentally, and if you don't want to do it
- >then you have to live in the shit accumulated around you, yes?
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- One teensy-weensy problem, Gil: wildlife have no say in the process.
- Satisfying people is not enough.
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