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- From: mfriedma@uucp (Michael Friedman)
- Subject: Re: Idiotic Japan Bashing
- Message-ID: <1992Dec29.220801.9083@oracle.us.oracle.com>
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- References: <1992Dec28.170740.17094@oracle.us.oracle.com> <1992Dec29.051805.18508@pegasus.com>
- Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 22:08:01 GMT
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- In article <1992Dec29.051805.18508@pegasus.com> tleylan@pegasus.com (Tom Leylan) writes:
- >mfriedma@uucp (Michael Friedman) writes:
- >>tleylan@pegasus.com (Tom Leylan) writes:
-
- >>>In short they plan to exist 100 years from now, and they plan to serve
- >>>their customers and to have employees and your stock certificates will
- >>>still be worth something.
-
- >>Well, if you call that a plan, then most companies and countries have
- >>thousand year plans, not hundred year plans. Of course, a plan that
- >>simple and with that little detail is so useless that you might as
- >>well not have it.
-
- >That is simply not the truth. I'll bet that there are few companies that
- >plan to be around in one thousand years. Many businesses not only plan to
- >sell out but actively prepare for it. One starts a company, goes public
- >and sells out.
-
- No Tom. You go public or you sell it. It is pointless to go through
- the expense and hassle of going public if you intend to sell the
- company.
-
- However, this does not apply to reasonably well established companies.
- Most such companies are already public and do not intend to be
- acquired.
-
- >>A decent plan would identify key markets and technologies that the
- >>company should get into. For example, I have a 20 year plan for my
- >>part of Oracle and another for my career.
-
- >Your personal prowess aside, simply writing a plan is as good as no
- >plan at all. I probably don't realize that Oracle is founded on a
- >company with a 200 year history in database products or are you simply
- >trying to convince us that a 10 year presence should elicit confidence
- >in any "plan" that pops up in your boardroom ?
-
- Why do we need a 200 year history to make a 20 year plan? Also, it's
- 15 years now, not 10.
-
- I don't care if you have confidence in the plan. It isn't public. I
- care that it tells me what the directions are that we should plan for.
- It means that I know that I need to hire people with some experience
- in those areas to do the work we are doing today even if they are not
- the optimum candidate for today's work. It means we have to develop
- relationships with the companies that will be our partners when we
- move into those new areas even if they aren't the optimum companies to
- develop relationships with for what we are doing today.
-
- Also, I don't have a boardroom.
-
- >You do not get it... it is clear and I'll stake my money that 100 years
- >after Oracle is dead and buried that Matsushita Corp. is still around.
-
- How do you plan on collecting?
-
- >Oracle can't plan the next 100 years any more than a 5 year old can plan
- >the next 20 years, that however doesn't mean that nobody can.
-
- Mind explaining how anyone can?
-
- Perhaps I might find your argument more convincing if you told me what
- the elements of a 100 year plan should be.
-
- So far you haven't. Why? Because once you start listing what should
- be in it the idiocy of such a plan becomes obvious.
-
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