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- Path: sparky!uunet!gatech!destroyer!ncar!vexcel!dean
- From: dean@vexcel.com (Dean Alaska)
- Subject: Re: Who ignores science?
- Message-ID: <1992Dec29.183534.29923@vexcel.com>
- Organization: VEXCEL Corporation, Boulder CO
- References: <1992Dec29.173620.28293@vexcel.com> <JMC.92Dec29101327@SAIL.Stanford.EDU>
- Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 18:35:34 GMT
- Lines: 68
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- In article <JMC.92Dec29101327@SAIL.Stanford.EDU> jmc@cs.Stanford.EDU writes:
- >In article <1992Dec29.173620.28293@vexcel.com> dean@vexcel.com (Dean Alaska) writes:
- > In response to those who only complain about environmentalists ignoring
- > science:
- >
- > WASHINGTON - U.S. Forest Service officials are suppressing a
- > report they had requested of their own wildfile biologists
- > on the Tongass National Forest in Alaska in order to allow
- > timber companies to continue logging the largest and oldest
- > trees.
- >
- > The report, obtained through the Freedom of Information Act,
- > concluded that unless logging operations are scaled back by
- > nearly a fourth, several species of animal, including
- > goshawks, owls, brown bears and wolves, are at risk of
- > disappearing from large parts of the forest. All are found
- > nowhere else in the world.
- >
- > The biologists, who have worked for the last two years to
- > document the wildlife species that need mature, old-growth
- > forests to survive, say they have been given poor performance
- > reviews, directed to water down their findings and told not
- > to release their report.
- > --
- > ==============================================================================
- > A thought for the holidays:
- > "Wine is living proof that God loves us and likes to see us happy"
- > - Benjamin Franklin dean@vexcel.com
- >
- >One possibility is that the report is good science being ignored by
- >the administration for the benefit of its friends in the lumber
- >industry.
- >
- >The other possibility is that the report is biased by the fact that
- >most Government employees are quite a ways to the left of any
- >Republican administration. This phenomenon always generates tension
- >between the holders of the 6,000 policy jobs that an administration
- >controls and the rest of the 6,000,000 Federal employees. The policy
- >makers control the issuance of reports, but the underlings can always
- >leak them to sympathetic media or tell their friends what to ask for
- >using the FOIA.
- >
- >Is it clear which is true in this case?
-
- As to the employees being to the left or right
- of the policy makers, how is this relevent to "good science"?
- Is good science left-wing or right-wing? Are the 6000 political
- appointees more likely to know good science than then biologists
- they employ?
-
- In any case, whether they ignore the report
- because of policy preference or favoritism, it would still be
- ignoring "good science". There may even be acceptable economic
- reasons to ignore science for a while, but it should be recognized
- as such.
-
- >--
- >John McCarthy, Computer Science Department, Stanford, CA 94305
- >*
- >He who refuses to do arithmetic is doomed to talk nonsense.
- >
-
-
- --
- ==============================================================================
- A thought for the holidays:
- "Wine is living proof that God loves us and likes to see us happy"
- - Benjamin Franklin dean@vexcel.com
-